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posted by hubie on Saturday June 04 2022, @09:49PM   Printer-friendly
from the world-is-just-a-great-big-onion dept.

The Guardian website is now available to Tor users as an "onion service", at the address:

https://www.guardian2zotagl6tmjucg3lrhxdk4dw3lhbqnkvvkywawy3oqfoprid.onion

The Tor network helps conceal its users' locations, which makes tracking their internet activity much more difficult. Tor also makes it harder for internet service providers to identify what their users are accessing. This means users can bypass censorship in parts of the world where access to independent news might be difficult or if certain websites and services are banned.

Guardian readers have always been able to access https://www.theguardian.com using tools such as Tor Browser. These browsers route their communications over the Tor network – thereby concealing the reader's location. But the browsers' communications have to exit the Tor network for the final leg of the journey in order to get to the site on the normal world wide web.

The introduction of a Guardian onion service means that the entire communication pathway between a reader and the Guardian takes place within the Tor network, thereby avoiding potential risks with the "hop" between the Tor network and the world wide web service. An example of such a risk could be that the "exit node" – the gateway between the normal web and the Tor network – could contain malicious software or be located somewhere that is subject to censorship.

Article: https://www.theguardian.com/help/insideguardian/2022/may/30/guardian-launches-tor-onion-service

Two other large news sites of note also have .onion addresses:

BBC: https://www.bbcnewsd73hkzno2ini43t4gblxvycyac5aw4gnv7t2rccijh7745uqd.onion/
NYTimes: https://www.nytimesn7cgmftshazwhfgzm37qxb44r64ytbb2dj3x62d2lljsciiyd.onion/


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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @10:06PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @10:06PM (#1250551)

    And if that won't work, I'll settle for a special "Really AC" account.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:59AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:59AM (#1250586)

      You misoverestimate you/us. Nobody cares if we visit SN.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:13AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:13AM (#1250591)

        Janrinok does, if you are aristarchus. But runaway pedophilia? That's fine.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @02:30AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @02:30AM (#1250603)

      Second this motion...great suggestion!
      The fact you have a 0 score shows just how much Soylent gives a fuck, so biased here...heck they have banned most of the fucking Internet!
      Tells you just how poor the site is becoming for debate on anything.
      Just another American prop as usefull as tits on a bill.

      Too bad, otherwise it would be cool here like the ol' days at /.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @06:20PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @06:20PM (#1250749)

        God damn you are dumb.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:30PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:30PM (#1250671)

      i don't know the new one.
      the old one was this: http://7rmath4ro2of2a42.onion/ [7rmath4ro2of2a42.onion] ?

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by janrinok on Sunday June 05 2022, @03:29PM (2 children)

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 05 2022, @03:29PM (#1250704) Journal

        When TOR was upgraded late last year we informed the community that we would NOT be upgrading our TOR connection. It was not required (you can still use TOR without us having our own .onion address) and it was an extra task for the sysadmins to look after.

        My own personal view is that if you need TOR to hide your identity when using this site you would perhaps be better off avoiding the internet altogether. We don't care who you are or where you are. As long as we can keep the site operating we are happy. Actually, if we run our own TOR service I think that we actually get more information about you than receiving an anonymous connection from the last TOR exit node that you use. It is still worthless and tells us nothing, and as I have said, we are not interested.

        We are interested in what you have to say - nothing more, nothing less.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 06 2022, @01:24PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 06 2022, @01:24PM (#1250925)

          yes, all valid and good.
          just one nitpick, if global dns goes down (which is a big IF) chances that onions could remain findable are better ... just saying. *wink*

          • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday June 06 2022, @02:28PM

            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 06 2022, @02:28PM (#1250967) Journal

            Likewise, a good point. But as interfacing another server (TOR) with load balancing, clustering, site protection etc, is not just as simple as just running the server itself. It would mean that we cannot reduce our running costs and, as I said, it is another job for the 2 x sysadmins (24/7 or best effort) to take care of in their busy lives supporting us and in their professional/personal lives. In the end we decided it was not worth it. If money wasn't a limiting factor and we had additional experienced sysadmins then we might be able to reconsider it.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @10:32PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @10:32PM (#1250554)

    Let's say 10000 Tor exit nodes are in service at a given time.

    1. Power up >10000 containers/vps's each running as Tor exit nodes in one or more data centers you control.
    2. The data centers' internet pipes ate now a choke point for over half the world's Tor traffic. Concentrate your logging and monitoring there.

    The larger the percentage of available Tor exit nodes you can contol and monitor, the more likely you will capture 'useful' metadata.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by captain normal on Saturday June 04 2022, @11:06PM (6 children)

      by captain normal (2205) on Saturday June 04 2022, @11:06PM (#1250557)

      Do you really think no one has thought of such a technique before you?

      --
      "It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @11:16PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @11:16PM (#1250560)

        Most likely baked in, since Tor invented by NSA.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:54AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:54AM (#1250583)

          No, it wasn't.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @02:55PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @02:55PM (#1250697)

            as good as: U.S. Naval Research Lab.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @06:37PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @06:37PM (#1250754)

              It's been rewritten for years since then. But why would the Navy or NSA create something insecure for their own use?

      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday June 05 2022, @02:19AM (1 child)

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday June 05 2022, @02:19AM (#1250602)

        Do you really think that such methods have not been employed since TOR launched?

        --
        Україна досі не є частиною Росії Слава Україні🌻 https://news.stanford.edu/2023/02/17/will-russia-ukraine-war-end
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:33PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:33PM (#1250674)

          solar powered and free chips from the chip-tree ... riiiight.
          also: more homeless children whilst free chips are being used to protect ... children :P

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @11:22PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @11:22PM (#1250563)

    MOST OF YOUR REALITY IS FAKE. PEOPLE ARE USED LIKE PUPPETS.

  • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @11:25PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2022, @11:25PM (#1250564)

    I love how people talk shit about Tor and hypothetical bullshit rather than come together and discuss what's cool about it.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:42AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:42AM (#1250597)

      The idea is "cool," sorta, but the history and execution is suspect.

      It originated from DoD/NSA, nobody really know who operate the sites/routers, especially the endpoints that expose the source/destination addresses to the naked Net.

      Why would/should anyone with a clue trust it for secrecy/privacy protection?

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:35PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:35PM (#1250675)

      The Billion-dollar middle-man Web Industries don't want the realization that Onion 'hidden services' completely avoid their cartel industry.

      RPi + Apache + Tor => *Boom* Free web hosting.

      Here is my tiny little site, that would be an absolute waste of money on the mainstreamweb: http//o6veojxrfutdwwsriyxbsgimvrnwyzpezexo2g6q4pknutzvibt3rbqd.onion/

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:49AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @12:49AM (#1250580)

    Why is it that liberals are always the ones trying to hide their disobedient behavior using secret means. Look at the gays, and alcohol drinkers, and weed smokers, and abortionists. It all starts in alley ways and back streets. Liberals: if you do nothing wrong, you'll have nothing to fear.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:39AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:39AM (#1250595)

      Says the anonymous coward.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @01:38PM (#1250676)

      they keep secrets but want to know all of mine?
      that's like buying and adding more grid-tie solar to a grid that has no net metering and is paying fix price on a contract to fossile generation station, nevermind how much they need to deliver. why should I?

  • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @10:07AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @10:07AM (#1250654)

    SN desperately needs a 'Jane You Ignorant Slut=+1' modifier.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @05:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 05 2022, @05:38PM (#1250735)

      I prefer the -10 Sucker Paul Always Misses

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