Apple's macOS Ventura leaves trusty 2015 MacBook Pro behind:
A new version of macOS means a new collection of Macs can no longer run Apple's latest desktop operating system. Perhaps most notably, the new macOS Ventura update won't be available for the 2015 MacBook Pro.
[...] Another notable change compared to the compatibility list for macOS Monterey is the end of major OS updates for Apple's 2013 Mac Pro (aka the "Trashcan"). But given the age of the machine, not to mention its much derided design, I can't imagine as many will be mourning its passing. With its Ventura update, Apple is no longer offering updates for any pre-2017 Macs, which means it's offering up to five years of major macOS updates for these machines.
macOS Ventura is currently only available as a beta update for developers, but is due to launch as a public beta next month. Like previous major macOS updates, expect a full release this fall.
Obsolete macs to be obsoleted!
(Score: 4, Funny) by looorg on Saturday June 11 2022, @10:12PM (4 children)
> Obsolete macs to be obsoleted!
Harsh words considering my favorite mac is still the se/30.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 11 2022, @10:52PM (1 child)
I forget which processor was in them- 4004?
(Score: 3, Informative) by looorg on Saturday June 11 2022, @11:02PM
One would think the name would have given it away, 68030. But there are, or was since they are somewhat hard to get hold of these days, accelerators that used a 68040.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 11 2022, @11:44PM (1 child)
Apple is working to obsolete users next.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2022, @01:08AM
It's only the logical next step - apple "owners" were put out of business long time ago.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2022, @02:06AM (3 children)
Why do so many businesses still use COBOL?
They'd be broke too if they kept investing their profits into bragging rights of having the latest new, shiny that doesn't even work as what they had did.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2022, @02:19AM (1 child)
Because they are financial outfits (banks and insurance) that sunk large sums of money in mainframe systems in the past. They want continuity and stability most of all, they don't want no IT headaches - any little savings from newer technology is not worth the risk.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2022, @11:10AM
Which is exactly the reason I keep a lot of my old stuff. Especially tools that edit and print my old documentation..
Like PCB, Schematic capture, wirelists, pinlists, and my trusty old Mathcad for DOS.
I want to make damned sure that even 100 years from now, things I have made for others can be maintained and modified as needs change.
(Score: 2) by epitaxial on Monday June 13 2022, @12:41AM
Sure migrate it all to Python 2. That should be around for... Oh nevermind.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2022, @04:59AM (1 child)
Apple is intentionally evil with making sure their tools have minimal backwards compatibility.
Moving to ARM will be their final nail in the X86 coffin.
(Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Monday June 13 2022, @07:34AM
So if I want a really cheap Apple laptop to run OpenBSD on, which one should I buy?
(Large screen preferred).
Warning: Opening your mouth may invalidate your brain!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2022, @08:49PM (1 child)
I'm currently using one of those 2015 Macbook Pros. I'm not surprised Apple stopped updating it; it's seven years old, and that's just what Apple does. Although I'm pretty sure I don't care anymore, since the last few versions of macOS have sucked ass anyway, and Apple has already threatened to start scanning users' photos looking for the dreaded kiddie porn (and anything else they might be interested in, just like Microsoft does, wink wink nudge nudge).
I've spent the past few days moving my systems around on my desk to accommodate my new system: a NUC running Ubuntu. Still learning the ins and outs of it, of course, and moving my email from the Macbook to the Ubuntu (probably on Thunderbird?) will probably suck, but it's worth it to leave Apple behind. Just like it was worth moving to Apple, at the time, to leave Microsoft behind.
Probably after I get everything moved over to the new machine, it will come out that Canonical is already controlled by the Deep State, or something. Can't win, can only delay losing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2022, @10:05PM
Even Linux is pozzed now.
Watch what happens when I say "systemd"...
Keeping an eye on The Hyperbola Project which should be migrating a GNU userland to a BSD kernel.
Honestly, the worst thing about Linux these days is the Linux kernel itself!
Perfection would be Slackware/BSD, but....I didn't make the cut for that timeline, apparently :-(