Amazon Will Pilot Drone Delivery in California This Year:
All sorts of wacky solutions have been proposed for better package delivery, from an underground "hyperloop" network of pipes to swarms of last-mile robots dispatched from mothership vans.
Let's not forget ever-elusive delivery drones. The widespread assumption was that Amazon would be the first to have its packages take to the skies, but as it turned out, Walmart beat them to the punch, piloting drone delivery in North Carolina in 2020.
Now Amazon's catching up. The company announced this week that it's starting drone delivery service in Lockeford, California later this year. South-east of Sacramento in the state's hot, dry Central Valley area, the town had a population of just 3,521 as of the 2020 census. An Amazon press release says the town has "historic links" to the aviation industry thanks to a former resident who built and flew planes there in the early 1900s.
The company doesn't give additional details around why it chose Lockeford for the Prime Air pilot, though the town's rural location, the fact that most customers there have backyards for the drones to drop packages in, and the lack of numerous obstacles you'd find in a more urban or densely-populated area likely all factored in.
[...] On the safety front, among other measures, Amazon has built what it calls an "industry-leading sense-and-avoid system" to keep its drones from crashing into things—things like other aircraft, people, pets, or unexpected obstacles (like, say, a chimney or an antenna). When a drone's sensors detect objects within a certain radius of it, it automatically changes course, and as it descends to drop packages, it checks that the surrounding space is clear.
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Amazon has officially begun making shipment deliveries with drones to customers in both Lockeford, California and College Station, Texas, the company confirmed to Nexstar's KTXL on Friday:
The service in Lockeford was first announced in June 2022 and six months later has officially started.
"Our aim is to safely introduce our drones to the skies. We are starting in these communities and will gradually expand deliveries to more customers over time," Natalie Banke, Amazon Air spokesperson said.
Amazon calls its drone delivery Prime Air and has been working with the Federal Aviation Administration and local officials in both Lockeford and College Station to begin the service.
The goal is to deliver packages under 5 pounds in one hour or less.
Previously:
- Amazon Unveils Smaller Delivery Drone That Can Fly in Rain
- Amazon Will Pilot Drone Delivery in California This Year
- Amazon's Prime Air Drone Delivery Fleet Gains FAA Approval for Trial Commercial Flights
(Score: 2) by Frosty Piss on Tuesday June 21 2022, @11:10AM (1 child)
This is extremely unlikely to be anything more than a technology test ir more likely a publicity stunt.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @03:02PM
The only thing holding back the technology is regulations.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by looorg on Tuesday June 21 2022, @11:26AM (4 children)
How efficient will this really be? How large are the drones going to be? Will it be small drones or will it be some kind of Predator sized drones? Can they carry multiple packages? Having a single small drone delivering one package at a time will probably never really be very efficient. At best a luxury service for some JIT-deliveries. Otherwise there will be a lot of round trips to the "mothership" or warehouse to pick up new packages. So unless you are expecting there to be swarms large enough to block out the sun to deliver all the Amazon packages this just probably won't do.
It's like having the mail man delivering one letter/package and then return to the warehouse to pick up the next letter/package and do that over and over again. That won't be very efficient. They need their bag/van/vehicle that is sort of stacked up with boxes ready to be delivered.
So will it be like a drone-van comes to your hood and then they unleash the drone swarm, they return to the van and then they drive to the next hood?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @12:10PM
Amazon fresh™ stuff, frozen only last year, delivered directly into your (or your neighbor's) backyard (not long) before they thaw, for a subscription fee of only $50/w**
** Terms and conditions apply
(Score: 4, Insightful) by lentilla on Tuesday June 21 2022, @12:47PM
I remain somewhat sceptical but the idea is within the realms of plausibility.
Assume the drone leaves the local depot, flies one mile, drops the package and then flies back. What's that, a five minute turn-around? Now multiply that by the time period they will be allowed to operate - assuming thirteen hours each day - which gives us 156 deliveries per day per drone. OK, they might need to pick up a freshly-charged battery with each delivery, and some deliveries will be problematic - but you only need one drone to service one hundred households at one delivery each day.
The drones won't be cheap but they can't cost too much either (otherwise they are too much of an attractive target for thieves). Let's say they cost $10,000 each. That's $100 dollars per household. Let's keep the delivery rates reasonable; say a dollar a delivery; and you have your capital expenditure covered in just over three months. Every delivery after that is gravy.
By which I mean to say: if the technical challenges can be overcome and the logistics worked out, last-mile package delivery by drone is well within reach today. Like I said above - I remain sceptical - but we have all the makings at our fingertips today, and; like the Wright Brothers and their airplane; it appears to be just a matter of hitting on the right combination.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday June 21 2022, @01:22PM
I think this will be the case, like a Protoss carrier launching drones. The business case is hard to make, though, unless using drones will mean fewer human drivers can make more deliveries, quicker. If it means the many drones cost Amazon more per delivery because of greater amounts of energy consumed, then it won't last.
Now, if you had a low-altitude cargo airship that was literally like a Protoss carrier that deployed drones, then you could have one human pilot run deliveries for an entire region and never get stuck in traffic. You'd probably have to have a cargo altitude set up with the FAA or something (if it doesn't already exist--I'm no pilot and have no idea), but it could work very well.
As a side note I would personally appreciate cargo traffic being moved to airships w/ drones because it would dramatically free up space on the roads for civilian traffic.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @03:16PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Prime_Air [wikipedia.org]
They could deliver single packages up to 10 miles from the warehouses, but they can also create drone towers that only store packages for drone delivery. Economy of scale and cheap recharge costs could make it viable. They could also charge more for 1-2 hour delivery.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @11:36AM
Mexicans work for $5/hour, cash... get them to pull rickshaws filled with Amazon boxes. They're great at avoiding unexpected obstacles (like, say, a chimney or an antenna or an ICE agent).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @12:03PM
The only good thing about Lockford is Lockford Meats sausage.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @12:14PM
N/T
(Score: 2) by datapharmer on Tuesday June 21 2022, @01:00PM
Think of the benefit to the community of all that nice white noise - maybe they can charge the city for the service!
(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Tuesday June 21 2022, @01:07PM (2 children)
And all I need is a BB gun.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @01:13PM
You'll catch free monkeypox in prison.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @05:00PM
Just wait until the guys who are brazenly wandering into drug stores and shoplifting start to hang out on high-traffic areas with shotguns!
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @06:12PM (1 child)
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(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @07:56PM
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& did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?
YES I DID! I was correct...
& YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!
FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.
FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.
FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!
So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!
* THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)
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(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @07:19PM
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& did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?
YES I DID! I was correct...
& YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!
FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.
FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.
FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!
So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!
* THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)
HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!
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(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @11:39PM
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& did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?
YES I DID! I was correct...
& YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!
FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.
FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.
FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!
So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!
* THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)
HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!
APK
P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @11:56PM
Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).
& did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?
YES I DID! I was correct...
& YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!
FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.
FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.
FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!
So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!
* THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)
HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!
APK
P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @12:53AM
Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).
& did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?
YES I DID! I was correct...
& YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!
FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.
FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.
FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!
So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!
* THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)
HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!
APK
P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @01:34AM
Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).
& did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?
YES I DID! I was correct...
& YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!
FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.
FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.
FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!
So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!
* THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)
HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!
APK
P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @02:58AM
Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).
& did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?
YES I DID! I was correct...
& YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!
FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.
FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.
FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!
So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!
* THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)
HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!
APK
P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @06:31AM
Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com]
& did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well))?
YES I DID! I was correct...
& YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!
FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.
FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.
FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!
So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!
* THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)
HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!
APK
P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @07:54AM
Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com]
& did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well))?
YES I DID! I was correct...
& YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!
FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.
FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.
FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!
So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!
* THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)
HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!
APK
P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk