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posted by mrpg on Tuesday June 21, @09:11PM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]
from the big-trouble-in-little-Japan dept.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/Internet-Explorer-shutdown-to-cause-Japan-headaches-for-months

Microsoft bids farewell to Internet Explorer on Thursday, stirring a sense of panic among many businesses and government agencies in Japan that waited to update their websites until the last minute.

Since April, Tokyo-based software developer Computer Engineering & Consulting has been inundated with requests for help.

[...] "They have known [about the phaseout] for a long time, but they must have postponed taking actions," said a CEC official, who expects the chaos among the procrastinated customers to last for "a few months."

[...] They said the browser was used for employee attendance management, expenses settlement and other internal tools. In some cases, they have no choice but to use Internet Explorer because of clients' systems used to handle orders. Over 20% of these respondents did not know or had not figured out how to transition to other browsers after Internet Explorer's retirement.

Government agencies are particularly slow to respond. The portal site for information on government procurement and bidding will switch its recommended browsers to Microsoft's new Edge and Google Chrome on Thursday. But for Japan Pension Service, notices concerning online applications must be viewed in Edge's Internet Explorer mode. The website of a government-backed mutual aid corporation for private schools still listed Internet Explorer as its only recommended browser.

Also:

Internet Explorer gravestone goes viral in South Korea


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @09:12PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @09:12PM (#1255063)
    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @02:03AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @02:03AM (#1255177)

      Thank you for that...
            It brought me to tears.

      Such wise advice, and so true, and I didn't take it when offered. I was way too much into establishing myself as an engineer. I am now old. No wife. No kids. Just another old person. Useless skillset. While rich people circle overhead finding this way and that to legally take what I worked for.

      Gondola no uta.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @12:31PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @12:31PM (#1255328)

        One definition of engineers is problem solvers.
        If you were a good engineer, you must still have problem solving skills.
        Those skills never become useless.
        Or, put another way, more problems means more work!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @09:23PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @09:23PM (#1255070)

    Put it in perspective... it's not like Godzilla's rampaging through downtown Tokyo again.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:03PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:03PM (#1255083)

      that's because he's in his lair trying to keep ie 6 alive so he can get notified when to attack tokyo

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @09:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @09:34PM (#1255074)

    The Reuters link, bottom of tfa, is special:
    > ... a headstone with Explorer's "e" logo and the English epitaph: "He was a good tool to download other browsers."

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Snotnose on Tuesday June 21, @09:47PM (6 children)

    by Snotnose (1623) on Tuesday June 21, @09:47PM (#1255077)

    As TFA explained this was a long time coming. The folks involved stuck their heads in the sand and hoped for the best.

    As usually happens in these situations, they got fucked in the ass.

    Condoms optional.

    --
    Now I'm worried. I just spent several minutes using Where's My Droid and my phone's flashlight to, ... find my phone.
    • (Score: 4, Touché) by DannyB on Wednesday June 22, @12:51AM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 22, @12:51AM (#1255149) Journal

      Only management could do something this clever.

      --
      Calmly vote. Fill out your ballet and drop it in the ballet box. Don't dance around bothering the pole watchers.
    • (Score: 5, Touché) by coolgopher on Wednesday June 22, @01:36AM (3 children)

      by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 22, @01:36AM (#1255171)

      It is good to see that people finally get the pay-off (or is that payback?) from choosing to tie themselves to vendor proprietary things rather than open standards. It is well deserved.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23, @03:04PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23, @03:04PM (#1255593)

        I wonder if this "IE" feature still works if IE is gone:
        https://help.sectigostore.com/support/solutions/articles/22000272681-code-signing-certificate-generation-using-microsoft-edge-with-internet-explorer-mode [sectigostore.com]

        If I remember correctly Firefox stopped supporting this so if you want to generate a code signing certificate with Firefox you need to use an old unsupported version of Firefox...
        https://www.thesslstore.com/knowledgebase/code-signing-cert-csr-generate/web-browser/ [thesslstore.com]

        You will need to use Internet Explorer 11 on Windows in order to securely generate your Code Signing certificate. This browser has a unique function which allows for the CSR and accompanying private key to be generated securely and easily. Other browsers, including Chrome, Edge, Firefox, and Safari, have removed the certificate generation functionality and should not be used.

        See also: https://support.comodo.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/244/7/which-browser-can-i-use-to-signup-for-a-code-signing-certificate [comodo.com]

        Comodo recommends using Internet Explorer 8+ on Windows and Firefox on Mac for certificate enrollment as it is both easy to apply and convenient for the user.

        https://codesigningstore.com/steps-to-get-code-signing-certificates [codesigningstore.com]

        For generating the CSR securely and without any issues, you’ll need to make use of Mozilla Firefox ESR or Internet Explorer 11 as your web browser. They’re used mainly because the browser contains a set of features that allows generating the CSR and private key. If you don’t have Mozilla Firefox ESR or Internet Explorer 11, then you’ll need to download and install one of them. If you’re not able to download or you’re facing any issue while installing it, feel free to contact us.

        So what are the open standards for this? ;)

        • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Thursday June 23, @10:22PM (1 child)

          by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 23, @10:22PM (#1255690)

          "Don't generate certificates inside a web browser"?
          Sure, it may be convenient, but if you're trying to do something securely, convenience should be a red flag.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 24, @03:39PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 24, @03:39PM (#1255833)
            A lot of these sites selling code signing certs don't let you do it in other ways.

            So I don't buy code signing certs.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23, @03:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23, @03:16PM (#1255597)

      But most of their stuff still works in Edge in IE mode right? Has got to take a high level of FUBARness to have it not work even in that mode. I mean MS even claims it supports ActiveX: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/edge-ie-mode [microsoft.com]

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by anubi on Tuesday June 21, @10:03PM (15 children)

    by anubi (2828) on Tuesday June 21, @10:03PM (#1255082) Journal

    Why do we have "standards" if they aren't universally implemented?

    If someone make a plug, someone else makes a socket, they should mate.

    --
    "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:12PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:12PM (#1255087)

      Google believes you should do no evil, so they make their standards proprietary to ensure no evil can be done with them by others.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:50PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:50PM (#1255100)
        Apple clings to the Lightning socket just so that UK and USA nationalists can stick it to those OMG! socialists of the European Union who demand that everyone use the Universal Serial Bus type C.

        Oh and dongles, did I mention they make a packet on their proprietary dongles?

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @01:17AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @01:17AM (#1255164)

          USB C is a terrible design, things that use such differing amounts of power shouldn't be using the same plug unless there's circuitry in it to handle conversion. The current design is just asking for trouble as there's no way of knowing just by looking if the cable can handle the power.

          • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Wednesday June 22, @09:31AM

            by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday June 22, @09:31AM (#1255303)

            The current design is just asking for trouble as there's no way of knowing just by looking if the cable can handle the power.

            USB C hardware, cables included, are negotiated for capabilities so it doesn't matter what the cable looks like: https://www.ti.com/lit/wp/slyy109b/slyy109b.pdf [ti.com]

            --
            compiling...
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @11:30PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @11:30PM (#1255124)

      Why do we have "standards" if they aren't universally implemented?

      Freedom of choice.
      She doesn't guarantee the freedom from consequences though.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Wednesday June 22, @03:43AM (8 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 22, @03:43AM (#1255210) Journal

      If someone make a plug, someone else makes a socket, they should mate.

      The EU agrees. Therefore all Tesla vehicles MUST be rechargeable via USB-C.

      --
      Calmly vote. Fill out your ballet and drop it in the ballet box. Don't dance around bothering the pole watchers.
      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by anubi on Wednesday June 22, @10:00AM (7 children)

        by anubi (2828) on Wednesday June 22, @10:00AM (#1255306) Journal

        I believe a standard high current connector is needed.

        Right off the bat, I think three heavy copper conductors ( one power, one power return, one safety ground ), and one optical fiber.

        Upon connection, the optical makes first contact, letting the host see the car and exchange charge requirements, permissions, accounts, payment, whatever.

        Then the host and car start checking for electrical continuity on the power return and safety ground.

        Once it has been verified that power return, safety ground, and all mechanical interlocks are in place, begin putting energy into the power conductor and verify the exact same amount of current is returned on the power return conductor. A small amount of AC current, low voltage, is magnetically injected into the ground return, expecting to see an exact equal and opposite current to appear on the other two lines. Ground Fault Interrupt. Don't want any chances of a hot car ramming fault current into stray loads!

        The charger and host engage in constant communication during charging to ensure both are cognizant and accurately processing commands and status. Constantly. Little perturbations. Just to make sure the other one is responsive. Failure causes both to shut down and require appropriate human intervention.

        And have this spec universal to everyone. Like anything else, this can be spoofed. That is what encryption on the fiber link is for.

        Anything that can be charged should, with the right interface, be capable of negotiating a charge.

        Including DIY cars. Or even spare battery packs.

        Just my first 2¢ worth.

        --
        "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @12:35PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @12:35PM (#1255331)

          OK, but I want three-phase...
          and water cooled cables...
          and...
          and...

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Freeman on Wednesday June 22, @02:59PM (3 children)

          by Freeman (732) on Wednesday June 22, @02:59PM (#1255363) Journal

          Optical Fiber is all well and good for anything that will be stationary and unmolested. Using a Fiber Connection for Cars is Stupid, unless someone can make fiber connectors less annoying to deal with. You must polish fiber connections when connecting them to ensure a good connection. Everyone and their mother's brother can't do that. A standard electric car connection is needed. Using Fiber Optics just seems dumb. You shouldn't need Gigabit connectivity to charge your car.

          --
          Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
          • (Score: 3, Touché) by Joe Desertrat on Thursday June 23, @01:07AM

            by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Thursday June 23, @01:07AM (#1255492)

            You shouldn't need Gigabit connectivity to charge your car.

            But they need that to download your driving data at the same time to "improve your service".

          • (Score: 2, Interesting) by anubi on Thursday June 23, @01:57AM (1 child)

            by anubi (2828) on Thursday June 23, @01:57AM (#1255498) Journal

            Quite right, Freeman.

            I had something more like a toslink in mind.

            No laser. LED. Maybe red, so one can easily see evidence of the charger searching for it's companion. Maybe 9600 baud? Half duplex operation.

            The charger would be in a loop, repeatedly sending it's ID and reply request, then wait for a response, then try again. To a human, the business end of the charger would just appear to blink. A simple photoreceptor would be able to read it's invitation / ID / status, and request for response even if it doesn't answer them. Might assist in troubleshooting problems.

            You are quite right... Gigabit cable is not a good fit for this. Light coupling is way too critical. My concept is more down the line of diver's underwater optical voice links where if the target is illuminated, communication can be embedded in the illumination. Same concept but different mechanization.

            --
            "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
            • (Score: 2, Insightful) by anubi on Thursday June 23, @02:12AM

              by anubi (2828) on Thursday June 23, @02:12AM (#1255499) Journal

              Forgot to mention why I thought a commlink was even needed...

              Every battery pack it encounters will likely have different charging parameters, likely changing over time, even as the battery charged or the environment changes.

              A car may even need to call for help or sound an alarm if it is experiencing anomalies.

              Part of the charge negotiation could even include a phone number to send status tracking to. So someone can go eat in peace, and at any time see how things are going.

              --
              "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday June 23, @05:00AM (1 child)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 23, @05:00AM (#1255531) Journal

          This will make phone and laptops need to have a very large charge connector if this is intended for universal charging.

          --
          Calmly vote. Fill out your ballet and drop it in the ballet box. Don't dance around bothering the pole watchers.
          • (Score: 1) by anubi on Thursday June 23, @06:18AM

            by anubi (2828) on Thursday June 23, @06:18AM (#1255533) Journal

            Ideally, even that should work, however the practicality of doing it this way would lead to lots of chuckles.

            I could see it powering an 18650 charger if nothing else available; having a similar function as a fireplug to garden hose adapter.

            Not saying it's practical, just do-able.

            --
            "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @09:47AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @09:47AM (#1255304)

      Microsoft makes a donation, someone else makes a regulation.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:09PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:09PM (#1255085)

    you didn't wait until the last minute to order a mail order Japanese bride?

    Oh wait - that's Russia . . .

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:22PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:22PM (#1255091)

      Oh, a foreign bride?

      Wouldn't you be disappointed to get her home only to discover she wasn't compatible?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:53PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:53PM (#1255101)

        Putin is a fucking a-hole.

        Before his invasion of Crimea, I used to get several electronic letters per month helpfully addressed to my spam folder from Ukrainian nubiles seeking companionship and fun times. Now, none at all.

        Thanks a lot, Vlad.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:58PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:58PM (#1255104)

          I vill steal luff you long time, darlink. 😘

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @10:12AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @10:12AM (#1255309)

          I think the nations are getting played against each other big time by world level industrialists and banksters to drain financial resources from everyone to finance the warmongering.

          I believe all of us are being taken for fools. Putin too.

          Everybody is someone else's bad guy. While the banksters sell us arms, made by their industrialists, to annihilate each other.

          I have a hard time considering Putin to be my enemy.

          He's caught up in this web of deceit and lies as much as the rest of us are. If anything, this mess is a result of the military industrial complex Eisenhower spoke of.

          • (Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Wednesday June 22, @11:42AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 22, @11:42AM (#1255322) Journal

            I believe all of us are being taken for fools. Putin too.

            He's already adequately compensated for his role as head of a kleptocracy. It'll be interesting to see how much wealth his family and allies managed to stash away.

            I have a hard time considering Putin to be my enemy.

            I don't have similar difficulties. Brazenly evil choices are never acceptable no matter how many world level industrialists are around.

            He's caught up in this web of deceit and lies as much as the rest of us are.

            He helped spin that web.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:11PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:11PM (#1255086)

    They should ask Microsoft for help. It's highly likely they have some way to force big sites like that into IE mode.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:44PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21, @10:44PM (#1255097)

      They should ask Microsoft for help. It's highly likely they have some way to force big sites like that into IE mode.

      You can *totally* ask Microsoft for help with that stuff.

      They have a whole team who exists to support legacy shit at extortionate prices for people who are too stupid to upgrade or plan ahead.

      I mean...a different team than the entirety of Microsoft who exist to support shit software at extortionate prices for developers who are too stupid to develop under Linux because they drank the Microsoft Koolaid years ago.

      I'm sure I'll get flamebaited down for that comment, but I used to work for a guy who quite literally told me "Microsoft technologies built this company and gave you a job, we're not using open source software".

      That was three years before I put him out of business for being cheaper, faster, and better. He was in the middle of writing a huge .NET application to help automate all his customer sites. I just deployed SaltStack and Ansible and walked away.

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday June 22, @12:48AM (1 child)

        by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 22, @12:48AM (#1255148) Journal

        Yup: people think MS is God, then complain incessantly about how their arses hurt from the pounding they keep taking.

        They never stop to think (which i, thankfully did, in 1999) that there might be something better. They just keep drinking the Kool-aid and bending over for more.

        Sad.

        --
        --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @09:55AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @09:55AM (#1255305)

          Their chosen god demands sacrifices. Isn't that expected?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @01:28PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @01:28PM (#1255342)

        The FastTrack program, the people that help enterprises (commercial accounts with more than 250 seats) transition from IE to IE mode in Edge is free.

        I'm sorry your old boss was a shortsighted a-hole. Microsoft used to have one of those. He threw chairs and broke iPhones. He and his predecessor had blind spots that made them not see the possibilities of open source. That cost the company billions, and the company is better without them.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @12:07AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @12:07AM (#1255138)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @12:33AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @12:33AM (#1255142)

      Don't forget to stop at the pharmacy to pick up your meds.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @12:36AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @12:36AM (#1255145)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @01:19AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @01:19AM (#1255166)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by SomeGuy on Wednesday June 22, @01:34AM (1 child)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Wednesday June 22, @01:34AM (#1255169)

    Microsoft has actually chosen to "retire" IE. That means users can't launch it directly.

    Right now Edge's "IE mode" relies on the actual IE rendering engine to browse these IE-only sites. A rendering engine that is now part of a "retired" product. A very complex, huge, half-assed rendering engine that will no longer receive the same level of attention that it once did.

    Eventually "IE mode" will disappear. (Although good luck removing it from Windows completely, I doubt that will ever happen).

    Like I've been saying since the first "Best Viewed In Microsoft Internet Explorer" sites - fix your fucking sites.

    And to those who proudly proclaimed "We only support Microsoft Internet Explorer! That is our official company browser!", well, here is the fire, now go die in it.

    • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Thursday June 23, @12:45AM

      by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 23, @12:45AM (#1255489)

      I thought Edge's "IE mode" disappeared when they switched Edge to just being a rebranded Chrome? Or did I misinterpret that?

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @02:13AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @02:13AM (#1255180)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @02:51AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @02:51AM (#1255190)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @04:40AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @04:40AM (#1255223)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @05:41AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @05:41AM (#1255236)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @05:46AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @05:46AM (#1255237)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com] (INTEZER's now owned by Microsoft iirc as well).

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well)?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @06:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @06:18AM (#1255242)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com]

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well))?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @07:42AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @07:42AM (#1255269)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com]

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well))?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @08:14AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @08:14AM (#1255285)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com]

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well))?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @09:10AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22, @09:10AM (#1255297)

    Guess what Dalek? YOU LOSE, hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com]

    & did I block that in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well))?

    YES I DID! I was correct...

    & YES, hosts work vs. this threat too stupid!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    So YOU LOSE chump... a BETTER ARTICLE than what I used proves it for me!

    * THANKS FOR LOSING TO ME yet again, as always for you... try me again? THIS COMES UP AS PROOF (as well as another I have on YOU regarding using sources where YOU contradict yourself - want quotes of that too? ASK!)

    HOW ESPECIALLY EMBARASSING FOR YOU with your NO-DOUBT self-upmodded by sockpuppet accounts of YOURSELF too - now that YOU have EGG ON YOUR FACE fucko!

    APK

    P.S.=> Do yourself a FAVOR - don't ever, EVER try me ever again OR I WILL MAKE SURE YOU SHIT ON YOURSELF yet again as always, easlly... apk

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