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posted by hubie on Sunday August 21 2022, @04:19AM   Printer-friendly
from the hard-drives-that-are-part-of-the-rhythm-nation dept.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20220816-00/?p=106994

A colleague of mine shared a story from Windows XP product support. A major computer manufacturer discovered that playing the music video for Janet Jackson's "Rhythm Nation" would crash certain models of laptops. I would not have wanted to be in the laboratory that they must have set up to investigate this problem.

[...] One discovery during the investigation is that playing the music video also crashed some of their competitors' laptops.

And then they discovered something extremely weird: Playing the music video on one laptop caused a laptop sitting nearby to crash, even though that other laptop wasn't playing the video!

It turns out that the song contained one of the natural resonant frequencies for the model of 5400 rpm laptop hard drives that they and other manufacturers used.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 21 2022, @04:21AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 21 2022, @04:21AM (#1267747)

    Some things never change.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 21 2022, @12:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 21 2022, @12:39PM (#1267779)

      But galloping Gertie was an aero-elastic failure, not simple resonance. See von Karman's story, https://www.ias.ac.in/article/fulltext/reso/010/08/0097-0102 [ias.ac.in]

      ...
      This attitude resulted in some definite undercurrents of rivalry between the experts and me. I recall one meeting where, after a discussion of aerodynamics, Mr. Ammann asked me point-blank to tell him the magnitude of the forces acting on the bridge as I saw them. I took out my documents and gave him the figures. He reached into his own pocket and pulled out a set of numbers, which he identified as having come from Professor Farquharson of the University of Washington.
      "See," he said triumphantly, reading them off. "We have calculated our design for a load three times that much." I was annoyed.
      This was exactly the kind of thinking that I had been trying to overcome. Mr. Ammann was talking about static load. He was refusing to recognize that small loads can also be very dangerous when they cause repeated oscillation.
      ...

      Or read the final report of the Board of Engineers at https://authors.library.caltech.edu/45680/1/The%20Failure%20of%20the%20Tacoma%20Narrows%20Bridge.pdf [caltech.edu]

      2. The excessive vertical and torsional oscillations were made possible by the extraordinary degree of flexibility of the structure and of its relatively small capacity to absorb dynamic forces. It was not realized that the aero-dynamic forces which had proven disastrous in the past to much lighter and shorter flexible suspension bridges would affect a structure of such magnitude as the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, although its flexibility was greatly in excess of that of any other long span suspension bridge.

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 21 2022, @07:25AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 21 2022, @07:25AM (#1267753)

    Janet stole some of that funk from Sly's tune, Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin), as noted here [whosampled.com].

    --
    "Thank you for the party, I could never stay. Many thangs is on my mind, Words in the way." -Sly Stone

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Gaaark on Sunday August 21 2022, @10:35AM

    by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 21 2022, @10:35AM (#1267767) Journal

    "And of course, no story about natural resonant frequencies can pass without a reference to the collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in 1940."

    Windows did THAT!?!? Dat shit be powerful!

    ---Tacoma Narrows Bridge: "You shall not pass!"

    ---Windows: "Yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah...Bass, bass, bass, bass"

    ---Tacoma Narrows Bridge: "Oh my dog, Janet Jackson? Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!"

    --
    --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by anubi on Sunday August 21 2022, @01:40PM (1 child)

    by anubi (2828) on Sunday August 21 2022, @01:40PM (#1267781) Journal

    Any Apollo guys still here?

    Remember the problems we had with resonant phenomena?

    Languages may change, but the laws of physics do not.

    About the only way that seemed to work for us was to use empirical data. We used actual acceleration/vibration data from a real launch.

    We recreated to the best of our ability conditions of launch on huge transducers.

    This was what we were doing in the 60's.

    https://maker.pro/forums/threads/shake-and-bake-machines.25074/ [maker.pro]

    Tacoma Narrows bridge showed us the perils of overlooking buildup of resonant energy.

    We still do that same thing to simulate earthquakes on skyscrapers ( ummm, here's hoping the models are good! ).

    Remember the Memorex recording tape ad? Is it live or is it Memorex? Where Ella Fitzgerald shattered a wine goblet by her voice?

    I guess today, we use Janet Jackson?

    Resonance. Really unexpected things happen.

    --
    "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
    • (Score: 1) by aafcac on Sunday August 21 2022, @05:18PM

      by aafcac (17646) on Sunday August 21 2022, @05:18PM (#1267807)

      Well, at least we're not using Michael Jackson...

  • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by turgid on Sunday August 21 2022, @02:04PM (3 children)

    by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 21 2022, @02:04PM (#1267782) Journal

    Did anyone ever see Michael and Janet Jackson in the same place at the same time?

  • (Score: 1) by MonkeypoxBugChaser on Sunday August 21 2022, @10:19PM (1 child)

    by MonkeypoxBugChaser (17904) on Sunday August 21 2022, @10:19PM (#1267848) Homepage Journal

    Are there examples of it on video anywhere? Sounds far fetched.

    • (Score: 1) by aafcac on Sunday August 21 2022, @11:28PM

      by aafcac (17646) on Sunday August 21 2022, @11:28PM (#1267852)

      Yes, I'm definitely skeptical. I remember conducting a physics lab in college to measure the velocity of sound using a hollow glass tube, oscilloscope and function generator. We moved the end back and forth until we found the length of the wave. Getting and keeping a sound at the right frequency for this to even be possible is rather remote. Between the angles involved, the case and needing to have it loud enough to rattle the laptop enough to make it happen, it's highly unlikely that this is even possible. Even just a small amount of distance can significantly impact the amount of the sound wave even reaching the computer. It's one of the reasons why we needed the tube, without the tube, you wouldn't get a standing wave as you'd lose a ton of the power having to make the trip twice.

      Plus, HDD for laptops are supposed to be in some sort of vibration damping mount because hard drives don't like being jiggled, which presumably would take some of this energy out.

      I'm not saying that it definitely didn't happen, but I do find it to be incredibly implausible. The conditions would have to be so utterly specific that you'd pretty much have to be doing it on purpose. Even then, it would be rather hit or miss. But, then again, there were those discs that got launched out of certain slot based CDROM drives due to broken DRM, so who knows.

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