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posted by hubie on Tuesday August 30 2022, @07:58PM   Printer-friendly
from the all-things-in-moderation dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has processed the following story:

Frogs once lived alongside dinosaurs. About 45 million years ago, the North Sea covered half of Germany. It's incredible to think these little creatures survived the dinosaurs' extinction. But a lower level mass death did take place in what is now called the Geiseltal region in central Germany and the cause has long remained a mystery.

Hundreds of frog fossils were found in a mass grave in Geiseltal's 45-million-year-old swampy coastlands, and their reason for being there has confounded scientists for decades. But my team's study found an explanation: they died from exhaustion while mating.

[...] Other scientists thought the Geiseltal frogs and toads died when lakes dried up and oxygen levels decreased rapidly. But our research showed this was unlikely as the frogs could have easily made their way to nearby water bodies. We also found evidence the frog carcasses floated in the water for some time before they sank to the lake bottom. So the lake didn't dry out.

Our comparisons of Geiseltal skeletons with modern frogs revealed most Geiseltal frogs were actually toads. Toads follow a land based lifestyle, except when they return to ponds to mate. They mated with numerous other toads during the very short mating season which, in some modern tropical species, lasts for just hours.

Sex can be a death trap for modern toad and frog species. Individuals are regularly overcome by exhaustion and drown. Female frogs and toads are at higher risk of drowning as they are often submerged underwater by one or more males. Even today, mass toad graves are found on migration routes and near or in mating ponds. This was likely to be the same situation for the Geiseltal specimens.

[...] The most likely explanation for why there are several groups of frogs, each numbering in the hundreds, that died almost at the same time in different ponds, is that their enthusiastic mating killed them. It explains why similar mass graves have been found in different parts of the world.

While these mating deaths sound extreme, a far more common cause of frog and toad mortality is humans destroying their homes, polluting water sources and spreading disease.

Frogs and toads survived several climate changes and extinction events on earth. However, some species have gone extinct. In 2021 one of the few remaining frog species of an ancient lineage of amphibians was declared likely extinct, having not been seen in 60 years.

[...] Frogs and toads live nearly everywhere including on trees, in flowers, in the jungle and in the desert. Some look almost as colorful as a rainbow and others can even fly. Imagine these creatures feeding next to a T-Rex. It would be a tragedy if we lost any more species.

Journal Reference:
Daniel Falk, Oliver Wings, Maria E. McNamara, The skeletal taphonomy of anurans from the Eocene Geiseltal Konservat-Lagerstätte, Germany: insights into the controls on fossil anuran preservation [open], Papers in Palaeontology, 2022. DOI: 10.1002/spp2.1453


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Barenflimski on Tuesday August 30 2022, @08:01PM (1 child)

    by Barenflimski (6836) on Tuesday August 30 2022, @08:01PM (#1269234)

    I'd like to take my chances dying that way.

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 30 2022, @08:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 30 2022, @08:26PM (#1269236)

      Ha ha big talk. Death by Snoo snoo! [youtube.com]

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Dr Spin on Tuesday August 30 2022, @08:33PM

    by Dr Spin (5239) on Tuesday August 30 2022, @08:33PM (#1269239)

    ... is to stop them from mating?

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by tizan on Tuesday August 30 2022, @08:41PM (6 children)

    by tizan (3245) on Tuesday August 30 2022, @08:41PM (#1269241)

    How did they know its too much sex and not other causes of death ?

    Modern frogs have sex till exhaustion ...so mass death of frogs of 45 millions ago is due to tiredness from mating !
    Not very scientific proof ...just a speculation.

    I will speculate that they died because of lightning hit the water...prove me wrong ?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 30 2022, @09:39PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 30 2022, @09:39PM (#1269253)

      How did they know its too much sex and not other causes of death ?

      So, what would you suggest as alternatives that still conforms to

      Our comparisons of Geiseltal skeletons with modern frogs revealed most Geiseltal frogs were actually toads. Toads follow a land based lifestyle, except when they return to ponds to mate.

      ?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 30 2022, @11:28PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 30 2022, @11:28PM (#1269284)

        So, what would you suggest as alternatives that still conforms to

        Why doesn't the "bolt of lightning" fit the fact that they were toads? All they know is that they died during mating season. There are numerous reasons for all the animals in an area to drop dead all at once. A lightning strike seems reasonable. Another reasonable reason might be poisonous gas from a geothermal vent (like this [strangesounds.org]).

        If living toads do the same thing, that suggests this might be more of the same. But that doesn't disprove other reasonable theories.

        • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Wednesday August 31 2022, @01:40PM

          by HiThere (866) on Wednesday August 31 2022, @01:40PM (#1269395) Journal

          While you have a valid point, it's not a very strong one. Yes, a, e.g., lightning strike, is not ruled out by anything in the summary. But when it's known that modern frogs(toads) act in a way that appears identical, that is the primary supposition. If you want to argue against that you need to provide evidence rather than supposition.

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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 30 2022, @11:29PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 30 2022, @11:29PM (#1269286) Journal
        Apparently, they also ruled out the lake drying out since some of the carcasses were floating before they settled to the bottom.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 30 2022, @09:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 30 2022, @09:41PM (#1269254)

      Electrifying sex and/or electro-SM is still too much sex.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by ilPapa on Tuesday August 30 2022, @10:58PM

      by ilPapa (2366) on Tuesday August 30 2022, @10:58PM (#1269274) Journal

      How did they know its too much sex and not other causes of death ?

      They made dying declarations.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 30 2022, @08:49PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 30 2022, @08:49PM (#1269243)

    It's not the sex that kills you. It's the twenty years of child support.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 31 2022, @03:11AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 31 2022, @03:11AM (#1269327)

      Good ser! Which country are you in where you have only 20 years of child support? I would vehemently want to emigrate there as our child support here is at least 40 years!

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday August 31 2022, @07:44PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 31 2022, @07:44PM (#1269488) Journal

      Programming is like sex.

      Make one mistake, and you have to support it forever.

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  • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Tuesday August 30 2022, @09:14PM

    by Opportunist (5545) on Tuesday August 30 2022, @09:14PM (#1269249)

    "Geiseltal" literally means "hostage valley".

  • (Score: 2) by looorg on Tuesday August 30 2022, @10:05PM

    by looorg (578) on Tuesday August 30 2022, @10:05PM (#1269259)

    So this was the motivation of Frogger. (S)He didn't just want to cross the road. (S)He was late for the orgy.

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