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posted by janrinok on Monday September 19, @06:13PM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]
from the dropped-like-a-Google-beta-product dept.

There will be no more Pentium, Pentium Gold, Pentium Silver, Celeron, etc. branded mobile/laptop CPUs starting in 2023:

"Intel Processor" Replaces Pentium & Celeron Brands

The new "Intel Processor" branding is intended to "simplify" their offerings for users. Intel's premium Core, Evo, and vPro branding, among others will remain. But for the basic CPUs, they will now be known as Intel Procesor.

The change may also apply to desktop and embedded product lines, but Intel hasn't announced that yet.

Over at Team Red: AMD's new naming scheme for its mobile CPUs seems purposefully confusing

AMD has announced that next year's mobile processors will use a new naming scheme. The new system is difficult to understand and may confuse customers - maybe on purpose.

[...] So now, there will be the new Mendocino series, which are 2020's Zen2 chips brought back to life as Ryzen 7x20. Barcelo (Ryzen 7x30) and Rembrandt (Ryzen 7x35) will also continue on. Zen4, the hotly anticipated new CPUs, are relegated to the high-end as Ryzen 7x40 (Phoenix) and Ryzen 7x45 (Dragon Range).

The problem: The most important part of the model number, the CPU generation, is the third digit. Logically, the first two digits in a four digit number should be the most important ones.

AMD has not announced any concrete model numbers yet, but it is easy to imagine how confusing these number-games can be for regular consumers. For example, a customer may have the choice between a Ryzen 7 7730U and a Ryzen 7 7740U - one is based on Zen3 from 2021 and is still paired with old Vega-GPUs, while the other is a chip of the newest Zen4 generation, even though only the third digit of the model number is different. Transparent for customers? Not at all!

Some processor names had already leaked before the naming scheme announcement, such as the AMD Athlon Gold 7220U, which would be a "Mendocino" APU using the Zen 2 microarchitecture.


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AMD Announces Three Entry-Level Mendocino Processors

AMD Ryzen 5 7520U, Ryzen 3 7320U and Athlon Gold 7220U Mendocino processors unveiled for entry-level thin and light laptops

AMD unveiled its entry-level Mendocino series of laptop processors at Computex 2022. The company didn't provide much in the way of meaningful information and briefly talked about its power efficiency. Now, it has announced three new Mendocino processors, the Ryzen 5 7520U, Ryzen 3 7320U and Athlon Gold 7220U, manufactured on TSMC's 6 nm process node. They use a modified version of the Zen 2 cores and support LPDDR5 memory.

[...] The "U" Mendocino processors' names confirm that all three SKUs have a maximum TDP of 15 W, making them ideal for thin and light laptops. The Ryzen 5 7520U is a 4-core, 8-thread processor with base/boost clocks of 4.3/2.8 GHz. The Ryzen 3 7320U has the same configuration but reduces the base/boost clocks to 4.1/2.4 GHz. Lastly, the AMD Athlon Gold 7220U has 2 cores, 4 threads and a base/boost clock of 3.7/2.4 GHz.

Microsoft Pluton is confirmed to be in the 7020 series. All three of the APUs include Radeon 610M graphics with 2 RDNA2 compute units, one-third that of a Ryzen 5 6600U with 660M graphics. The 610M may be identical to the iGPU in Ryzen 7000 desktop CPUs, and it supports AV1 hardware decode and up to 4 display outputs (USB-C ports with DisplayPort capability could be used to get close to this number).

You can see AMD's new mobile naming scheme at work. The third digit of 7520U indicates that it uses Zen 2 cores. We could see Ryzen 3 7340U and Ryzen 5 7540U "Phoenix Point" APUs using Zen 4 cores surrounding that model.

Also at Tom's Hardware.

Previously: AMD Announces Mendocino APU at Computex, and More Details for Ryzen 7000 and Socket AM5

See Also: Nvidia Announces the RTX 4090, 4080 (16 GB and 12 GB), and More


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  • (Score: 2) by stormreaver on Monday September 19, @07:58PM (2 children)

    by stormreaver (5101) on Monday September 19, @07:58PM (#1272438)

    I don't follow CPU naming schemes much, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the numbers are getting larger as the CPU gets more powerful. If that's the case, then it's a good numbering scheme. If that's not the case, then it's no worse than what came before.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Monday September 19, @08:34PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday September 19, @08:34PM (#1272441) Journal

      Previously AMD had Zen 2 "Renoir" as Ryzen 4000, Zen 3 "Cezanne" as Ryzen 5000 along with a few Zen 2 "Lucienne" refresh chips, and Zen 3+ "Rembrandt" as Ryzen 6000. The mixing of Cezanne and Lucienne was criticized, and they put the "Barcelo" Zen 3 refresh [anandtech.com] under Ryzen 5000: 5825U, 5625U, 5425U.

      Earlier than that, you could find a "14nm" Zen 1 mobile chip under Ryzen 3000, still being sold recently.

      https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/csm_Bezeichnung_a89332affd.jpg [notebookcheck.net]

      This is the new scheme. Theoretically there can be a 7710U Zen+ chip next to a 7340U Zen 4 chip. I think the Zen 4 chip would have +55% IPC, higher clocks, and even equal/more cores. Not to mention the differences in graphics.

      AMD marketing gave a decoder wheel [youtube.com] to journalists.

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    • (Score: 3, Touché) by jb on Tuesday September 20, @03:48AM

      by jb (338) on Tuesday September 20, @03:48AM (#1272503)

      it seems to me that the numbers are getting larger as the CPU gets more powerful

      Would it be fair to conclude then that the current Intel i7-1065 is substantially less powerful than the Intel 80286? (and perhaps also imaginary, if we take the model number literally!)

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