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posted by mrpg on Tuesday December 20, @04:33AM   Printer-friendly
from the спасибо-ни-за-что-путин dept.

Physics, space and climate research may be entering a new Cold War:

[...] We often look to science for solutions to the world's problems. But this tectonic shift in the geopolitical landscape has upended global science collaboration, leaving many researchers scrambling to find solid footing. While the outcome of this change — like the outcome of the war itself — is uncertain, here are some examples of how the conflict has affected scientists and their research.

[...] There have been mission delays and the temporary shutdown of at least one space telescope (SN: 3/26/22, p. 6). The International Space Station, which is run jointly by NASA and the Russian space agency Roscosmos, however, continues to operate normally for now.

In the world of high-energy physics research, the CERN particle physics lab near Geneva announced that it will not be renewing its international cooperation agreements with Russia and Belarus, which is aiding Russia's invasion, when the contracts expire in 2024.

[...] Science outside of Ukraine and Russia has not escaped the geopolitical maelstrom's economic fallout. Rising energy costs — spurred by Russia cutting off exports of natural gas — are causing European research labs to reassess their energy use, the journal Nature reported in October. CERN is a major consumer, using the equivalent of about a third of Geneva's annual average energy consumption.


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  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by Mojibake Tengu on Tuesday December 20, @04:51AM (3 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Tuesday December 20, @04:51AM (#1283270) Journal

    Introduction of unfathomable Web to masses was the most damaging scientific experiment in human history ever.

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    The edge of 太玄 cannot be defined, for it is beyond every aspect of design
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20, @05:03AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20, @05:03AM (#1283274)

      I disagree, I don't think the introduction was done scientifically at all. No testable hypothesis, no double blind experiments--none of the trappings of proper science.

      • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Tuesday December 20, @05:09AM

        by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Tuesday December 20, @05:09AM (#1283275) Journal

        That's because they are actually sorcerers only posing as scientists.

        The psych damage already done by Web to humans is real.

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        The edge of 太玄 cannot be defined, for it is beyond every aspect of design
    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday December 20, @07:17AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 20, @07:17AM (#1283294) Journal

      the most damaging scientific experiment in human history ever

      What damage? We not have the right feels?

  • (Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday December 20, @08:04AM (5 children)

    by legont (4179) on Tuesday December 20, @08:04AM (#1283296)

    Rising energy costs — spurred by Russia cutting off exports of natural gas

    Europeans know that it was the US who bombed gas pipelines.

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    "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by pe1rxq on Tuesday December 20, @08:52AM (1 child)

      by pe1rxq (844) on Tuesday December 20, @08:52AM (#1283299) Homepage

      One of them never was operational, the other was already effectively shut down.
      Whoever bombed it did not change the amount of gas flowing, they only changed the bargaining positions.
       

      • (Score: 2) by gnuman on Tuesday December 20, @08:08PM

        by gnuman (5013) on Tuesday December 20, @08:08PM (#1283391)

        Furthermore, the bargaining position can be said to be "hey, don't overthrow me now as you will not have pipeline money back anyway" to any so called "moderates" that could be left in position of power in Russia.

    • (Score: 2) by fraxinus-tree on Tuesday December 20, @11:43AM (2 children)

      by fraxinus-tree (5590) on Tuesday December 20, @11:43AM (#1283305)

      Looks like the Russian propaganda did not settle over this yet. It either goes "US bombed it" or "Europeans bombed it". Go figure.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21, @01:55AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21, @01:55AM (#1283436)

        The war in Ukraine is not about Ukraine nor even Russia. It's a war of the US against Germany. See, Germany was the only advanced economy with positive foreign trade balance. Not any more. WWIII it is.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday December 21, @05:43AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 21, @05:43AM (#1283447) Journal

          It's a war of the US against Germany.

          Is this a contest to see who can come up with the dumbest spin on the Ukrainian war? Because I think I could win this. My newsletter has all the secret moves.

  • (Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Tuesday December 20, @08:29AM (1 child)

    by PiMuNu (3823) on Tuesday December 20, @08:29AM (#1283297)

    Note that the damage to CERN is quite high. Several years of delays to their programme, another 400 MEuro debt (on top of the 400 MEuro already planned), furlough scheme for their staff. It comes from direct issues - Russia is no longer contributing to the budget - and indirect issues - huge increase in electricity prices and other cost inflation. For reference, CERN site power is about 200 MW.

  • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by looorg on Tuesday December 20, @01:35PM

    by looorg (578) on Tuesday December 20, @01:35PM (#1283314)

    Reshaping global science? It might be in a few niche segments of science and some big prestige projects have been temporarily suspended due to sanctions etc. They will resume eventually or new projects will be started or they'll just chug along without Ivan. After all most scientific projects are not international co-operation projects with people from Russia, or the Ukraine. So they will all move along just like before the war. So to say that it's reshaping science as we know it is probably a headline for the clickbait ages.

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