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posted by hubie on Friday March 31, @03:51PM   Printer-friendly

A rare 'ultramassive' black hole, 30 billion times the mass of the Sun, is lurking in the cosmos:

Holy smokes. A group of astronomers have found a black hole containing (checks notes) 30 billion times the mass of our Sun. That's more than seven thousand times the size of the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way.

The team used gravitational lensing to see the black hole. In this natural phenomenon, massive objects' gravitational fields bend photons of light magnifying and warping them—making it possible to see object that would otherwise be hidden or too faint. Last year, a team spotted the oldest known star in an arc of gravitationally lensed light.

According to a Durham University release, the newly detected black hole is the first ever found using gravitational lensing. A paper about the discovery is published today in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.

[...] The team identified the black hole by modeling the different pathways light might take through the universe, depending on the presence of black holes of varying mass. They then compared the computer data with images of the cosmos taken by the Hubble Space Telescope. Lo and behold, they found a match.

[...] "Gravitational lensing makes it possible to study inactive black holes, something not currently possible in distant galaxies," Nightingale added. "This approach could let us detect many more black holes beyond our local universe and reveal how these exotic objects evolved further back in cosmic time."

A brief video explaining the process

Journal Reference:
James. W. Nightingale, Russell J. Smith, Qiuhan He, et al., Abell 1201: Detection of an Ultramassive Black Hole in a Strong Gravitational Lens, arXiv:2303.15514 [astro-ph.GA], https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2303.15514


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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Friday March 31, @04:09PM (4 children)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Friday March 31, @04:09PM (#1299181)

    is what hip astronomers say when they're properly pissed off.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Thexalon on Friday March 31, @04:20PM (3 children)

      by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 31, @04:20PM (#1299184)

      And when they have a target for their wrath: "That's not a black hole, that's yo momma!"

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      • (Score: 4, Funny) by Gaaark on Friday March 31, @05:57PM (2 children)

        by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 31, @05:57PM (#1299218) Journal

        Yo momma's hole so black, African American, negroid..... sorry... where was I?
        :)

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @06:04PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @06:04PM (#1299222)

          You were heading to a dark place...

        • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Friday March 31, @07:56PM

          by krishnoid (1156) on Friday March 31, @07:56PM (#1299244)

          ... that Vantablack looked at it and said, "I'm blind!"

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by VLM on Friday March 31, @04:10PM

    by VLM (445) on Friday March 31, @04:10PM (#1299182)

    As I understand the article, and I spent at least 20 seconds skimming it, its 10.37 billion lightyears away, lets round that to 10 billion years old.

    It weighs 40 billion solar masses (again, rounded). So figure gains 4 solar masses per year.

    Now your average american is gaining like 50 pounds a decade of fat (thank you HFCS and the low fat diet), so that's about 5 pounds per year per person.

    Figure the sun weighs 5e30 pounds to one sig fig, so assuming linear growth and spherical cows etc the black hole is gaining mass at the same rate as about 4e30 Americans, which is a lot.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DadaDoofy on Friday March 31, @05:07PM (4 children)

    by DadaDoofy (23827) on Friday March 31, @05:07PM (#1299192)

    This "observation" is based on a number of theories and mathematical models, a house of cards, each of which must be true and accurate for this to be the case.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @05:44PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31, @05:44PM (#1299210)

      Thank you - came here for this.

      The team identified the black hole by modeling the different pathways light might take through the universe, depending on the presence of black holes of varying mass. They then compared the computer data with images of the cosmos taken by the Hubble Space Telescope. Lo and behold, they found a match.

      This is the sketchiest of evidence - a possible solution of an ill-posed mathematical problem on par with x+y=10, therefore x=10 and y=0.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Friday March 31, @06:00PM (1 child)

        by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 31, @06:00PM (#1299220) Journal

        The team identified the black hole by modeling the unicorns they found eating at Burger King of varying mass. They then compared the computer data with images of the cosmos taken by the Hubble Space Telescope. Lo and behold, they found a match.

        So, same thing?

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 01, @12:05AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 01, @12:05AM (#1299267)

          Well, we've moved on from angels on the head of a pin so that's progress.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 01, @03:13AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 01, @03:13AM (#1299279)

      No kidding. And has anyone ever SEEN a dinosaur? No. It's ALL a house of cards and we should all just chill and enjoy the concentric crystal spheres we are blessed to get to see go around the Earth.

  • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Friday March 31, @05:10PM (1 child)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Friday March 31, @05:10PM (#1299197) Journal

    It's just a Kardashev scale type IV civilization hiding one of their boundary outposts galaxies from more powerful adversaries.

    Now, let's speculate more about hyper-operations on Kardashev scale metric... How about those civs who can create universes at will?

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    • (Score: 2) by legont on Saturday April 01, @03:05AM

      by legont (4179) on Saturday April 01, @03:05AM (#1299278)

      It's a 10 billion years old observation, right? We are supposed to roughly double in what? 7 - 15 - 30 years? So they are way way WAY bigger than the universe or I call them suckers.

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Tork on Friday March 31, @05:26PM (2 children)

    by Tork (3914) on Friday March 31, @05:26PM (#1299202)
    "Yo mama's so fat, even light has to go around her!"
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  • (Score: 2) by KritonK on Saturday April 01, @07:32AM (1 child)

    by KritonK (465) on Saturday April 01, @07:32AM (#1299301)

    Asuming that this is correct, it seems that they have discovered several thousand galaxies' worth of matter, literally hidden away from sight in one spot.

    How many such ultramassive black holes would need to exist, in order to do away with dark matter?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 01, @01:01PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 01, @01:01PM (#1299326)

      I don't believe these kind of black holes help at all to explain things at the galaxy level, such as their stellar distributions and how they rotate.

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