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posted by hubie on Sunday May 07, @12:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the now-marvin-won't-write-any-new-ones dept.

Entertainer Ed Sheeran has been found not guilty of infringing on four chords used in both his song and in Marvin Gaye's hit, "Let's Get It On". The same four-chord sequence is used in a lot of songs and at a key point in the trial a musicologist testified that the same four-chord sequence has been used in popular songs many times prior to Gaye's 1973 hit. The trial took place in Manhattan in New York and the jury took only three hours to reach a unanimous decision. The two songs featured at the trial also have very different lyrics and melodies as well as different use of the common four chords. While the decision does not form a legal precedent, it is likely to affect similar cases in the future.

During her closing argument, Farkas said the case never should have been brought and that Sheeran was "unjustly accused" of copying from "Let's Get It On."

"We all benefit from artists being free to create and to build on what came before them," Farkas said, warning the jury that a verdict against Sheeran would mean "creativity will be stifled for fear of being sued."

--ABC

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"I am just a guy with a guitar who loves writing music for people to enjoy," he added. "I am not and will never allow myself to be a piggy bank for anyone to shake."

--New York Times

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by coolgopher on Sunday May 07, @01:33AM (3 children)

    by coolgopher (1157) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 07, @01:33AM (#1305081)

    The whole thing reminded me of this skit [youtube.com] by Axis of Awesome.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by RS3 on Sunday May 07, @03:32AM (1 child)

      by RS3 (6367) on Sunday May 07, @03:32AM (#1305088)

      It would've been so awesome if they had shown that video in court.

    • (Score: 2) by stormreaver on Sunday May 07, @04:11PM

      by stormreaver (5101) on Sunday May 07, @04:11PM (#1305143)

      I've seen that skit dozens of times, and it's still as good today as it was when I first saw it.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 07, @02:46AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 07, @02:46AM (#1305082)

    The accusers, and prosecutors should be sued. That would have a definite effect on future cases.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by sjames on Sunday May 07, @04:01AM

    by sjames (2882) on Sunday May 07, @04:01AM (#1305090) Journal

    I hate to tell them this (OK, no I don't), but there are a very limited number of notes and they only cover so many octaves. Most of the potential combinations sound terrible.

    The remainder still provide for a lot of songs, but not if we treat as little as 3 notes in succession as enough to be an infringement.

    The only reason I can think of that the music industry hasn't collapsed into a suepocalypse yet is that lawyers and music executives must have lead ears (even a tin ear would hear too many commonalities to possibly take to court in a single decade).

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Ingar on Sunday May 07, @10:46AM (5 children)

    by Ingar (801) on Sunday May 07, @10:46AM (#1305110) Homepage

    "I am just a guy with a guitar who loves writing music for people to enjoy," he added. "I am not and will never allow myself to be a piggy bank for anyone to shake."

            -- Ed Sheeran in the New York Times

    "Ed Sheeran is an English singer-songwriter who has a net worth of $200 million. He is one of the wealthiest and most successful singers in the world today. In a given year in when he is touring, Ed can easily earn $70 – $100 million. For example he earned $65 million between June 2019 and June 2020 from his various endeavors."

            -- celebritynetworth.com

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Sunday May 07, @11:02AM (3 children)

      by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Sunday May 07, @11:02AM (#1305112)

      Do you have something against people who enjoy success honestly?

      It's not like he's stealing the money from his fans...

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Monday May 08, @03:03PM (2 children)

        by bzipitidoo (4388) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 08, @03:03PM (#1305302) Journal

        I agree that hating on the successful just for achieving success is mean and jealous. Yet such concentrated wealth is not good for anyone, not even the ones who end up with the wealth. It doesn't speak well of our systems and our excessive reverence for the famous and rich that money so easily concentrates. Seems people are trying to create heroes.

        The most charitable take on the hate is to view it as unhappiness that our society does such a bad job at fairly compensating the 99%, to say nothing of putting more of our immense wealth back into sustainability. Taxation is one remedy. Another is pushing back against the ownership paradigm. This case was a battle between 2 powers, Gaye (his estate, of course), and Sheeran. This time, Gaye was the villain, on the ownership side practically standing in Captain Copyright's shadow, and lost. One battle decided in favor of the good.

        But the war goes on. There will be more fights over who owns what ideas, musical and otherwise. I believe winning the campaign requires that the very idea of copyright be acknowledged as wrong, incompatible with reality, and superseded with patronage and crowdfunding systems. As to winning the war against ownership of all things that should not be owned, there are many more campaigns to win, such as weakening this idea of rationing health care as severely as is done in the US, and the high charges imposed on students for a college education which saddles them with student loan debt. What is a young college grad or dropout to think of how the world works that they start their careers with a big deficit? That ownership is the way of the world?

        • (Score: 2) by Ingar on Wednesday May 10, @08:40AM (1 child)

          by Ingar (801) on Wednesday May 10, @08:40AM (#1305666) Homepage

          I pasted a quote from Sheeran himself and a piece of information from some random internet site. Any conclusions you draw are your own.

          As for my own conclusions: I neither hate nor am I jealous. Although I do ask myself why we as a society should tolerate such minstrels amassing vast amounts of wealth.

          I find the whole notion of 'owning a song' rather ridiculous. The modern musical system has 7 notes, mostly uses 6 chords, which are divided into three groups
          (tonica, subdominant and dominant). The number of permutations you can make with 3 elements is rather limited.

          • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Thursday May 11, @12:51AM

            by bzipitidoo (4388) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 11, @12:51AM (#1305815) Journal

            > why we as a society should tolerate such minstrels amassing vast amounts of wealth.

            It's less a matter of tolerance than one of preoccupation with more urgent matters, and laziness. We all have our goto merchants for music, commodities, and services. It's another case of the 80-20 rule: 20% of the vendors get 80% of the business. The top vendors seldom are superior, and often are inferior, as is the case with banks. You get the worst service at the biggest banks. But people still go to them because of their brand recognition and ubiquity. How to level that out, for the sake of more diversity and fairness? One way is to tax the rich. Since the 1980s, the US has been doing a very poor job of that. The rich actually pay less in tax than the poor! It's messed up. The whole idea of "Trickle Down Economics" is a load of bunk, just a feeble excuse for not taxing the rich.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08, @02:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08, @02:23PM (#1305292)

      So...he's automatically in the wrong because he's been successful?

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Sunday May 07, @11:00AM

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Sunday May 07, @11:00AM (#1305111)

    Come on jury! You had ONE job [newser.com]...

  • (Score: 2) by GloomMower on Sunday May 07, @12:56PM

    by GloomMower (17961) on Sunday May 07, @12:56PM (#1305123)

    Really hate "Thinking out loud", would have been great not to hear it in the groceries stores anymore, but I the lawsuit would just change where the money goes, not remove the song :(

  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Gaaark on Sunday May 07, @01:59PM (2 children)

    by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 07, @01:59PM (#1305128) Journal

    who's Ed Scissorhand?

    I'm guessing pop music of some kind. I'll pass.

    --
    --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
  • (Score: 2) by jman on Monday May 08, @01:15PM

    by jman (6085) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 08, @01:15PM (#1305283) Homepage

    Pythagoras wins again.

  • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday May 10, @12:47AM

    by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday May 10, @12:47AM (#1305634) Homepage Journal

    Those Marvin Gaye songs wouldn't be under copyright any more and this case could never have come to trial had it not been for Sonny Bono and a corrupt judicial system.

    The rich pop singer Sony Bono got himself elected to the US Senate and made a lot of friends there before suffering a rich man's death at the hands of a skiing accident most could never afford. So for the poor dead talentless pop singer, they raised the copyright length from 20 years, extendable another twenty with proper paperwork and a twenty dollar fee, to the author's life plus ninety five years, ninety five if done for a corporation, without any copyright paperwork at all unless it gets to court.

    Since the constitution allows copyrights and patents for limited times anybody with two functioning brain calls can't possibly believe that a century past the author's lifetime "The Congress shall have Power To...promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;" is in any way constitutional. A lifetime plus a century is logically and reasonably unlimited.

    I thought the law was passed as a result of bribery, but when folks tell me all congressman are crooked, I say it's almost statistically impossible that 535 people would ALL be corrupt. Then I realized, they don't have to be corrupt. 535 cowards fearful of losing an election are easy prey for the likes of the Music And Film Association of America (MAFIAA). "Nice campaign, be a shame if anything happened to it. You know I'm a good citizen who gives you and your opponent both fifty million buck campaign contribution. Be a shame if he got a hundred million and you got nothing."

    But they can't do that to the Supreme Court. They face no election. It's been shown public ally that Clarence Thomas broke every ethical rule the judicial system has, Except the rules don't apply to the Supreme Court! Since the other eight refuse to enact a code of ethics, I must assume all nine are as God damned dirty as Thomas.

    That not only explains "Limited means whatever congress says it means" but why Citizens United ruled that a corporation is a person (who can't go to prison or be executed for any crime, only fined).

    --
    Carbon, The only element in the known universe to ever gain sentience
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