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posted by janrinok on Thursday May 11 2023, @12:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the everything-is-fine dept.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/05/sbf-says-dishonesty-and-unfair-dealing-arent-fraud-seeks-to-dismiss-charges/

Late Monday, legally embroiled FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried moved to dismiss the majority of criminal charges lobbed against him by the United States government after his cryptocurrency exchange went bankrupt in 2022.

In documents filed in a Manhattan federal court, lawyers from the law firm Cohen & Gresser LLP shared Bankman-Fried's first official legal defense. Lawyers accused the US of a "troubling" and "classic rush to judgment," claiming that the government didn't even wait to receive "millions of documents" and "other evidence" against Bankman-Fried before "improperly seeking" to turn "civil and regulatory issues into federal crimes."

After FTX's collapse last year, federal prosecutors acted quickly to intervene, within a month alleging that Bankman-Fried was stealing billions in customer funds, defrauding investors, committing bank and wire fraud, providing improper loans, misleading lenders, transmitting money without a license, making illegal campaign contributions, bribing China officials, and other crimes. Through it all, Bankman-Fried has pleaded not guilty. Now, in his motion to dismiss, Bankman-Fried has requested an oral argument to "fight these baseless charges" and "clear his name." He's asking the court to dismiss 10 out of 13 charges, arguing that federal prosecutors have failed to substantiate most of their claims.

"The Government's haste and apparent willingness to proceed without having all the relevant facts and information has produced an indictment that is not only improperly brought but legally flawed and should be dismissed," Bankman-Fried's lawyers argued in one of several memos filed yesterday.


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Convicted FTX fraudster Sam Bankman-Fried pleaded for a lenient prison sentence in a court filing yesterday, saying that he isn't motivated by greed and "is already being punished."

Bankman-Fried requested a sentence of 63 to 78 months, or 5.25 to 6.5 years. Because of "Sam's charitable works and demonstrated commitment to others, a sentence that returns Sam promptly to a productive role in society would be sufficient, but not greater than necessary, to comply with the purposes of sentencing," the court filing said.

[...] The filing urged the court to "reject the PSR's barbaric proposal" of 100 years, saying that such sentences should only be for "heinous conduct" like terrorism and child sexual abuse.

The founder and ex-CEO of cryptocurrency exchange FTX, Bankman-Fried was convicted on seven charges with a combined maximum sentence of 110 years after a monthlong trial in US District Court for the Southern District of New York. The charges included wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud, securities fraud, commodities fraud, and money laundering.

[...] Kaplan said before the trial that SBF "could be looking at a very long sentence" if convicted. After the conviction, law professors were quoted as saying that Bankman-Fried's sentence was likely to be at least 20 or 25 years and conceivably as much as 50 years.

[...] "Sam was not predatory. He did not set out to prey on the elderly, the unsophisticated, or implement a plan to poach pension assets. His conduct falls far lower on the culpability scale," the filing said. He also "never intended to cause loss for the purpose of his own personal gain," his legal team said.

Bankman-Fried's conduct should be characterized as "risk shifting," the filing said. Risk-shifting "offenses are not specifically intended to cause loss. Instead, they shift the risk of any potential loss from the defendant (or from others involved in the criminal undertaking) to a third party, such as the victim of the offense."

According to Bankman-Fried's legal team, this makes his offenses similar in severity to "false statements for the purpose of obtaining a bank loan that is intended to be repaid. Such offenses are generally less culpable than those where loss is specifically intended."

[...] Bankman-Fried's sentencing submission was accompanied by letters of support from his parents and others. His mother, Barbara Fried, wrote that "Sam is the first person we would call if we needed an angel of mercy in a pinch," and that he "lived an exemplary life in every way prior to the events that brought FTX down."

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2023, @01:38PM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2023, @01:38PM (#1305858)

    From the filed memo

    ...the Government, in hindsight, may dislike or disapprove of business practices of the cryptocurrency industry, FTX, or even Mr. Bankman-Fried––but this does not give it license to turn them into federal crimes. See Kelly v. United States, 140 S. Ct. 1565, 1571 (2020) (the federal fraud statutes are “limited in scope to the protection of property rights” and do not “criminaliz[e] all acts of dishonesty”).

    "I'm a dishonest piece of shit, and that ain't illegal" sure is an interesting defense and will work miracles for drumming up support and/or leniency from a jury of his "peers".
    Somewhat affirming one's own dishonest acts as part of their own defense in a case that boils down to "you were dishonest towards your investors" is not one I've seen as having been successful in court before.

    This is obviously a very complex case with many aspects, but it's not looking good for the indicted individual. While I do not wish it upon anyone to find themselves in the crosshairs of the Federal Government, the hubris exhibited by the indicted individual (through the actions of their legal team) is immense.

    • (Score: 5, Touché) by Gaaark on Thursday May 11 2023, @02:36PM (1 child)

      by Gaaark (41) on Thursday May 11 2023, @02:36PM (#1305861) Journal

      "I'm a dishonest piece of shit, and that ain't illegal" sure is an interesting defense and will work miracles for drumming up support and/or leniency from a jury of his "peers".

      It's worked for Trump.

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      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday May 11 2023, @03:17PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday May 11 2023, @03:17PM (#1305865)

        I was going to say: "I'm a dishonest piece of shit, and that ain't illegal" seems to be how our Supreme Court thinks, it might also fly with the Fried case Judge.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2023, @03:00PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2023, @03:00PM (#1305863)

      From the filed memo

      ...the Government, in hindsight, may dislike or disapprove of business practices of the cryptocurrency industry, FTX, or even Mr. Bankman-Fried––but this does not give it license to turn them into federal crimes. See Kelly v. United States, 140 S. Ct. 1565, 1571 (2020) (the federal fraud statutes are “limited in scope to the protection of property rights” and do not “criminaliz[e] all acts of dishonesty”).

      "I'm a dishonest piece of shit, and that ain't illegal" sure is an interesting defense and will work miracles for drumming up support and/or leniency from a jury of his "peers".

      That's not really what he's saying in this motion. It's more like "you say I'm a dishonest piece of shit, but so what if I am?"

      A motion to dismiss by the defendant is always something like this. The defendant is making an argument of the form "Even if everything you say I did is true, that's not even a crime, so we don't need to bother with this trial." The court is not asked to consider any evidence or other merits of the case, and is at this point just considering everything claimed by the prosecution at face value.

      These procedural matters don't involve any jury.

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by SomeRandomGeek on Thursday May 11 2023, @03:42PM (3 children)

        by SomeRandomGeek (856) on Thursday May 11 2023, @03:42PM (#1305868)

        It is true that intent to deceive is only one of the five elements needed to prove fraud, and is not illegal by itself. https://www.newyorklitigator.com/fraud.html#:~:text=The%20elements%20of%20a%20fraud,civil%20wrong%20and%20a%20crime. [newyorklitigator.com]
        But I wonder which of the other four elements SBF's lawyers think they are going to weasel out on?
        The making of a statement? Clearly he did that.
        The falsity of the statement? Also blindingly obvious.
        Reasonable reliance on the statement by the injured party? Hmm....
        Injury sustained as a result of the reliance? Bigtime.

        The only element that seems remotely in doubt is that reliance on the statement was reasonable. Are they perhaps trying to argue that their client was so obviously a lying piece of shit that it was unreasonable for anyone to ever rely on anything he said? That would explain the disparaging of their own client.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2023, @08:32PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2023, @08:32PM (#1305939)

          The only element that seems remotely in doubt is that reliance on the statement was reasonable. Are they perhaps trying to argue that their client was so obviously a lying piece of shit that it was unreasonable for anyone to ever rely on anything he said? That would explain the disparaging of their own client.

          You can just read the documents to find out the answer to this question. They are not disparaging their own client. TFA is very misleading.

          For example, one of charges TFA makes misleading statements about regards the charge of bank fraud conspiracy. Defense argues that the government's allegations to not meet the elements of this crime because the bank was not deprived of any property, and that past decisions bind the court to reject the government's alleged harm to the bank as insufficient to meet the requirements of this crime. Obviously this is a subtle question of law, really nobody but the court can answer it.

          But one thing that is not subtle is that the defendant is most certainly not admitting to any other elements such as the factual question of whether or not defendant actually lied to the bank.

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday May 11 2023, @08:50PM (1 child)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday May 11 2023, @08:50PM (#1305944) Journal

          Are they perhaps trying to argue that their client was so obviously a lying piece of shit that it was unreasonable for anyone to ever rely on anything he said?

          Ah...the Tucker Carlson Defense [npr.org], a bold gambit!

          • (Score: 2) by mth on Friday May 12 2023, @12:57AM

            by mth (2848) on Friday May 12 2023, @12:57AM (#1305981) Homepage

            Yes, it reminded me of that as well.

            Another similarity, although probably with less real-world use: Rimmer's trial [youtube.com] from Red Dwarf.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2023, @03:47PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2023, @03:47PM (#1305870)

        OP here...
        I see what you're saying and you are correct, this is communication between the defendant's lawyers and the court, no jury is involved. This is the defendant trying to argue that there is no case here (for the particularly listed charges).

        Extending this further though, assuming the court rejects this motion/these motions, this communication becomes part of the record. I am relatively confident that the prosecution will use this information of self-acknowledged assholery in order to manipulate the jury. This will be used to demonstrate aspects of the character of the defendant in order to cast doubt on any and all other statements they make in their own defense.

        I was assuming the judge to not accept the motion and thinking ahead of the actual court case in front of a jury.

        That all being said, you are indeed accurate in terms of the context of this particular communication.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2023, @07:53PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2023, @07:53PM (#1305928)

          Extending this further though, assuming the court rejects this motion/these motions, this communication becomes part of the record.

          Something being part of the record and something being shown to the jury are entirely different things. A jury is asked to make decisions only on actual, factual disputes before the court.

          I am relatively confident that the prosecution will use this information of self-acknowledged assholery in order to manipulate the jury.

          But there is no "self-acknowledge assholery". TFA is really misleading. Despite linking to the actual motions, the authors of TFA appear to not have actually read them. For example, TFA says this:

          That memo, for example, concedes that Bankman-Fried and co-conspirators lied on a US bank application to open an account to receive FTX customer deposits after the bank had previously rejected an honest application.

          But what the motion actually says about the bank aplication is:

          The S5 Indictment alleges that Mr. Bankman-Fried and his co-conspirators gave false information to "Bank-1" to open a bank account in the name of an entity called North Dimension to receive FTX customer deposits ... The S5 Indictment further alleges that "Bank-1" had previously refused to open an account for FTX for that purpose ...

          Nowhere did the defendant "concede" that they lied to the bank. Of course they didn't, that would be stupid! Stating "You allege I did X and that is not a crime" is not even remotely the same thing as saying "I admit to doing X and that is not a crime".

          Defendant might be wrong, X might actually be a crime, but that's now up for the judge to decide. If the judge denies the motion, defendant will probably then argue "you have no proof that I did X" (in a motion asking for summary judgement in their favour) which is still not admitting to doing X but I'm sure Ars Technica will try to spin it that way anyway.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Thursday May 11 2023, @03:19PM (4 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday May 11 2023, @03:19PM (#1305866)

      hubris exhibited by the indicted individual (through the actions of their legal team) is immense.

      Isn't this the path to greatness? Slytherin style, Trump style, pretty much every Fortune 50 CEO style?

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Thursday May 11 2023, @04:16PM (3 children)

        by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Thursday May 11 2023, @04:16PM (#1305873)

        You can bet it's pretty much the only avenue of defense left to him and he has nothing to lose,

        I mean how else could he get a lighter sentence? Nobody likes him and nobody is ever going to fall for any act of contrition he might try to fake. So he's extremely unlikely to get a pardon or any kind of clemency. Also, he probably knows he looks guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo no matter what story he might try to spin.

        So he might as well exploit his well-deserved image of a shameless unprincipled sonofabitch for all it's worth and try to build a disgusting, but possibly effective defense out of it.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by JoeMerchant on Thursday May 11 2023, @04:57PM (2 children)

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday May 11 2023, @04:57PM (#1305881)

          image of a shameless unprincipled sonofabitch for all it's worth

          Just think of the job offers he's going to get after all this...

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          • (Score: 3, Touché) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Thursday May 11 2023, @06:31PM (1 child)

            by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Thursday May 11 2023, @06:31PM (#1305899)

            Just think of the job offers he's going to get after all this...

            He's much too young to be POTUS.

            • (Score: 4, Touché) by JoeMerchant on Thursday May 11 2023, @07:21PM

              by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday May 11 2023, @07:21PM (#1305917)

              >He's much too young to be POTUS.

              You're never too young to run a Casino real-estate empire into the ground and star in a distorted reality TV series. Make a movie with a monkey and then you're qualified to be President (with the right backers...)

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    • (Score: 2) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Friday May 12 2023, @01:12AM

      by Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) on Friday May 12 2023, @01:12AM (#1305984)

      I've had a real estate transaction go badly and found out some things about how hard it is to make a fraud case.

      If it doesn't fit the legal definition of fraud, it's wrong to bring it to a jury. "I would give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety".

      A priori I'm guessing it's solid, though. All secondhand, but unanimous, I hear that the DOJ career structure is not "win some, lose some" and with some high profile exceptions they don't risk bringing a case unless they're sure.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Thursday May 11 2023, @04:08PM (1 child)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Thursday May 11 2023, @04:08PM (#1305872)

    After FTX's collapse last year, federal prosecutors acted quickly to intervene

    Acting quickly would have been acting before the collapse of Bankman-Fried's particular scheme. They didn't, even after it had become blindingly obvious that the entire cryptocurrency industry is a giant con.

    They still aren't acting, I might add.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday May 11 2023, @07:28PM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday May 11 2023, @07:28PM (#1305923)

      > blindingly obvious that the entire cryptocurrency industry is a giant con.

      Not the entire industry, just 99%+ of the investment seekers.

      > They still aren't acting, I might add.

      My guess: they (or at least their politically appointed masters) are still profiting from the Ponzis that haven't imploded yet.

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  • (Score: 2) by Opportunist on Thursday May 11 2023, @04:28PM

    by Opportunist (5545) on Thursday May 11 2023, @04:28PM (#1305876)

    "I'm a liar and cheater, but still not a crook"

    Yes. Yes you are.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by ikanreed on Thursday May 11 2023, @05:07PM (2 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 11 2023, @05:07PM (#1305884) Journal

    Lifting up a knife and shoving it down is not murder.
    Grabbing a wallet I saw is not pickpocketing
    My dog was on a leash, I just wasn't holding it.
    I wasn't divulging nuclear secrets, I was just chatting with my online friend about my job.

    It's been tried before. And it's a shitty lawyer who tries it again.

    I'm not a lawyer, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say "Never establish your mens rea as part of your defense" is a reasonable guidepost for all criminal proceedings.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday May 11 2023, @07:25PM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday May 11 2023, @07:25PM (#1305920)

      >"Never establish your mens rea as part of your defense" is a reasonable guidepost for all criminal proceedings.

      That depends (almost entirely) on how well you did your venue shopping.

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    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday May 12 2023, @03:54AM

      by Thexalon (636) on Friday May 12 2023, @03:54AM (#1305998)

      Also, SBF, like most people in the dock for con artistry, is generally neglecting the #1 rule of what to do as a criminal defendant: Shut the fuck up. Definitely don't talk to the police, but also don't talk to the press, don't talk to anybody except your lawyer about the case.

      The reason con artists, fraudsters, and other serial liars have a tough time with this one is that they've been able to talk their way out of tough situations before, so they think that will work in court too. What they don't understand is that both the prosecutor and judge have spent their entire professional lives hearing this kind of crap, knowing exactly what it is, and how to tear it to pieces.

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