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posted by hubie on Sunday May 14, @03:21PM   Printer-friendly
from the out-with-the-old-in-with-the-new dept.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/05/microsoft-patches-secure-boot-flaw-but-wont-enable-fix-by-default-until-early-2024/

Earlier this week, Microsoft released a patch to fix a Secure Boot bypass bug used by the BlackLotus bootkit we reported on in March. The original vulnerability, CVE-2022-21894, was patched in January, but the new patch for CVE-2023-24932 addresses another actively exploited workaround for systems running Windows 10 and 11 and Windows Server versions going back to Windows Server 2008.

The BlackLotus bootkit is the first-known real-world malware that can bypass Secure Boot protections, allowing for the execution of malicious code before your PC begins loading Windows and its many security protections. Secure Boot has been enabled by default for over a decade on most Windows PCs sold by companies like Dell, Lenovo, HP, Acer, and others. PCs running Windows 11 must have it enabled to meet the software's system requirements.
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Additionally, once the fixes have been enabled, your PC will no longer be able to boot from older bootable media that doesn't include the fixes. On the lengthy list of affected media: Windows install media like DVDs and USB drives created from Microsoft's ISO files; custom Windows install images maintained by IT departments; full system backups; network boot drives including those used by IT departments to troubleshoot machines and deploy new Windows images; stripped-down boot drives that use Windows PE; and the recovery media sold with OEM PCs.

I.E.: You will have to turn "Secure Boot" off in order to install Linux, probably.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by MIRV888 on Sunday May 14, @03:53PM (3 children)

    by MIRV888 (11376) on Sunday May 14, @03:53PM (#1306290)

    Non working backups is going to go over great with commercial customers.
    Nice jorb Microsoft.
    Looks like it's unupdated windows 10 for me. (or linux with secure boot disabled)
    I miss windows 7.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by WizardFusion on Sunday May 14, @05:17PM (1 child)

      by WizardFusion (498) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 14, @05:17PM (#1306297) Journal

      Windows 7 was the last great OS from Microsoft

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Sunday May 14, @06:44PM

        by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 14, @06:44PM (#1306307) Journal

        DR-DOS was the last great OS from.....oooh, sorry.

        DOS was the last great OS from Microsoft: but it was only so-so (see above for improvements)

        "Microsoft has a 50 - 50 chance of living, though there's only a 10 percent chance of that."
        --
        With agolopies to Zucker/Abrams/Zuckers...

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    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday May 15, @02:43PM

      by Freeman (732) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 15, @02:43PM (#1306385) Journal

      Anyone with useful backups will have current backups. Non-current backups can be brought back from the dead via older versions as necessary. Just because it's "dead" update/security wise, doesn't mean those old backups are totally useless.

      --
      Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by gznork26 on Sunday May 14, @04:33PM

    by gznork26 (1159) on Sunday May 14, @04:33PM (#1306293) Homepage Journal

    Hmmmm, says a devious PR flak from the shadows. This fix will be required in order to install any new bootable software media we offer, but it will prevent installation from any old bootable media. How many dual-boot systems are out there keeping obsolete versions of Windows alive after all this time? If we play our cards right, we can use this to bury those zombies for good!

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by ElizabethGreene on Sunday May 14, @06:02PM (2 children)

    by ElizabethGreene (6748) on Sunday May 14, @06:02PM (#1306305)

    I.E.: You will have to turn "Secure Boot" off in order to install Linux, probably.

    I don't believe this is the case. The blacklisted components are, to my knowledge, all windows boot components. I'll test this and report back.

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday May 15, @02:45PM

      by Freeman (732) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 15, @02:45PM (#1306386) Journal

      Could be an interesting journal post. I've dabbled in Linux on/off since my days in college. Before that I didn't know any better. Well, before that it was the 90s, so Linux was very much medieval stuff at that stage anyway. Not that Windows was much better.

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      Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 2) by ElizabethGreene on Tuesday May 16, @01:47AM

      by ElizabethGreene (6748) on Tuesday May 16, @01:47AM (#1306491)

      I'm working on this, but on the struggle bus because I'm ignorant of Hyper-V's UEFI options. It's been a long time since I tried to dual boot something. :/

  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Sunday May 14, @06:59PM (1 child)

    by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 14, @06:59PM (#1306308) Journal

    REALLY hoping this shit keeps fappening: it may SOMEDAY!?! make people say, "Shove it, Microsoft. Just f*ck off".

    And, just because:

    Microsoft the Pooh
    Microsoft the Pooh
    Tubby little Clippie all stuffed with useless
    He's Microsoft the Pooh
    Microsoft the Pooh
    Willy nilly silly old Bob

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    • (Score: 2) by ElizabethGreene on Tuesday May 16, @02:00AM

      by ElizabethGreene (6748) on Tuesday May 16, @02:00AM (#1306493)

      As an interesting side note, this same thing happened on Ubuntu when they changed their signing certificate.

      From https://askubuntu.com/questions/1456891/verification-failed-0x1a-security-violation-from-22-04-1-live-usb [askubuntu.com]

      First answer:

      What happened here is that Canonical updated their UEFI Secure Boot signing key and your system's Secure Boot Advanced Targeting variable. In plain terms, they made it so that newer boot files they release are bootable, and older ones aren't. If you got the update and then try to boot an OS that is still using the older files, it won't work and you get a Security Violation error.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 14, @09:22PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 14, @09:22PM (#1306316)

    Windows 11 must have [Secure boot] enabled to meet the software's system requirements.

    That's absolutely not the case. It has to have TPM, but secure boot is optional.

    • (Score: 2) by Subsentient on Tuesday May 16, @03:56AM

      by Subsentient (1111) on Tuesday May 16, @03:56AM (#1306510) Homepage Journal

      No, you have to install it with secure boot.
      And then you can turn secure boot off. As far as I've seen, anyways. But still has to boot with UEFI, they dropped BIOS support.

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