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posted by janrinok on Monday February 05, @05:18PM   Printer-friendly

- Homepage: https://www.hirensbootcd.org/
- Download: https://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/

We have occasionally picked out specific piece of Linux software that we think might be of interest to some in our community. For example, TAILS gets an occasional mention, and we frequently discuss 'improvements' to web browser that are supposed to make our lives better in some way. This one is slightly different. It is, as far as I can recall, the first time that we have received a submission for a Windows Boot Disk.

- Hiren's BootCD PE core has been updated to Windows 11 Pro v10.0.22621.2428 (build 22621).
- 340 new drivers have been integrated into the Windows 11 PE image in the IO, Network and Storage categories.
- Almost all utilities have been updated.
- Most of the known bugs have been fixed."

"Hiren's BootCD PE (Preinstallation Environment) is a restored edition of Hiren's BootCD based on Windows 11 PE x64. Given the absence of official updates after November 2012, the PE version is currently under development by the fans of Hiren's BootCD. It features a curated selection of the best free tools while being tailored for new-age computers, supporting UEFI booting and requiring a minimum of 4 GB RAM.

Equipped with these invaluable tools, you can address various computer-related problems. Notably, it does not include any pirated software; instead, it exclusively contains free and legal software.

If your computer does not support a regular Windows 11 installation, it will likely boot with the Windows 11 PE version, as Windows PE versions have significantly lower hardware requirements. For instance, if your computer boots with the Windows 10 PE version, it is highly probable that it will also boot with the Windows 11 PE version.

Upon booting, the PE version attempts to install drivers for essential components such as graphics, sound, wireless and Ethernet cards for your hardware, facilitating connection to a WIFI or Ethernet network. If your WIFI or Ethernet card is not recognized by the PE version, kindly Contact Us with your hardware model. We will strive to incorporate the necessary drivers in upcoming releases.

Yes, I know, haters gonna hate...


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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by turgid on Monday February 05, @05:26PM (2 children)

    by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 05, @05:26PM (#1343166) Journal

    There's no reason to run Linux at all now, what with WSL and now this.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Gaaark on Monday February 05, @09:55PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Monday February 05, @09:55PM (#1343218) Journal

      Do you feel lucky punk? Do you? Did i install Windows 6 times to many or only 5 times to many?

      Take barebones linux from my cold. dead. hands.
      ;)

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Monday February 05, @10:50PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 05, @10:50PM (#1343230) Journal

      WINE even runs on WSL. Yes, really.

      (you can run Windows apps from a different millennium)

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      The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by pTamok on Monday February 05, @05:40PM (15 children)

    by pTamok (3042) on Monday February 05, @05:40PM (#1343168)

    Some motherboard manufacturers provide firmware updates only as Windows executables, with no Linux or UEFI support. There are various tricks one can do to extract the actual firmware, but applying it is not necessarily easy.

    Booting into a Windows PE environment allows running Windows executables to perform firmware updates.

    I'd prefer there to be a standard mechanism, such as an UEFI executable, or fwupd [wikipedia.org], but while manufacturers persist in ignoring Linux, it's nice to have this option.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by pTamok on Monday February 05, @05:46PM (14 children)

      by pTamok (3042) on Monday February 05, @05:46PM (#1343170)

      Oh, and I should point out their statement on legality of use:

      Hiren's Boot CD PE: Frequently Asked Questions

      Is Windows PE legal to use?

      "Windows PE is not a general-purpose operating system. It may not be used for any purpose other than deployment and recovery. It should not be used as a thin client or an embedded operating system. There are other Microsoft products, such as Windows Embedded CE, which may be used for these purposes.

      To prevent its use as a production operating system, Windows PE automatically stops running the shell and restarts after 72 hours of continuous use. This period is not configurable."

      Source: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/winpe-intro [microsoft.com]

      Windows PE does not include any Windows license keys. Additionally, Hiren’s BootCD PE does not violate the purposes of Windows PE and it does not alter the "72 hours of continuous use" limitation. Therefore, using Windows PE in Hiren’s BootCD PE is legal according to Microsoft’s usage terms, in our opinion.

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by mhajicek on Monday February 05, @06:34PM (13 children)

        by mhajicek (51) on Monday February 05, @06:34PM (#1343177)

        Anyone used to running Windows is accustomed to rebooting within 72 hours anyway.

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        • (Score: 4, Funny) by janrinok on Monday February 05, @07:04PM (2 children)

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 05, @07:04PM (#1343185) Journal

          If it guarantees that it will run for as long as 72 hours I might even download it and give it a play. Just to give me that warm feeling when I go back to Linux, you understand?

          • (Score: 2, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Monday February 05, @07:51PM (1 child)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 05, @07:51PM (#1343198) Journal

            I think I'll just copy the Hiren's desktop image to my working machines, and use them. Non-nerds who see the desktop will assume that I'm some kind of hacker or something.

            • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday February 05, @09:58PM

              by Gaaark (41) on Monday February 05, @09:58PM (#1343219) Journal

              I think I'll just copy the Hiren's desktop image to my working machines

              Urrgh...just threw up into my mouth a little. Just gonna go over here and spit it out the Window(s).

              8)

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        • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05, @08:44PM (9 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05, @08:44PM (#1343206)

          This jab seems rather out of date. My XP used to stay up for weeks, and 8.x was the same. Every once in a while it would have issues after sleeping; but two week+ uptime was common.

          And you know what? I never really cared that much about uptime, especially in the office when you were going to shut down at the end of the day. In that case, a day or two of uptime was fine. It's not a server, so other things were more important, like actually having a desktop that didn't suck. People never got that, always focused on uptime as just some kind of tribal chest thump.

          • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by turgid on Monday February 05, @08:57PM (2 children)

            by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 05, @08:57PM (#1343208) Journal

            In the days of MS-DOS you were lucky to crash less than once an hour. Now get off my lawn.

            • (Score: 5, Funny) by Reziac on Tuesday February 06, @02:38AM

              by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday February 06, @02:38AM (#1343255) Homepage

              What were you doing to it, DOIS abuse?? My original DOS machine routinely ran for two years at a crack, and then only needed a restart because it was time to rewhack the MFM hard drive that would get out of alignment. I routinely get Windows uptimes measured in years. (To be fair, PCLinuxOS also runs for months at a time, but Fedora gets cranky. Hopefully 39 will be better...) I think the real story is that you do not name and speak nicely to your PCs and therefore they hate you.

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              And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
            • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Reziac on Wednesday February 07, @12:27AM

              by Reziac (2489) on Wednesday February 07, @12:27AM (#1343424) Homepage

              Now that I'm apparently done being funny (thanks, mods!) .... DOS5/6/7 alone were exceedingly stable (3.2 was also good, 4 was not). Crashes could be buggy 3rd party programs, but more often it was bad RAM. This was exceedingly common with RAM as chips on the mainboard, and could be difficult to diagnose. Had the problem myself, but it only manifested when WordPerfect with the font add-on was asked to change the font, because that was the only time it touched that physical address. Locked out the bad address range (which is to say, the bad chip) and it never crashed again.

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              And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by shrewdsheep on Monday February 05, @09:20PM

            by shrewdsheep (5215) on Monday February 05, @09:20PM (#1343212)

            like actually having a desktop that didn't suck. People never got that

            I'm one of the people not getting it obviously, as Windows has always been one of the shittiest desktop out there today carrying the undisputed crown. And yes, there were/are options other than Linux. It's certainly true that it matters very much what you are used to. Still Microsoft never cared (and did not know in the early days) about usability.

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday February 05, @09:28PM (3 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 05, @09:28PM (#1343213) Journal

            I can understand your point of view. Another point of view for you? I always resented Windows crashing. Win95 days it would crash for any reason, or no reason at all. Close a window, crash. Open a window, crash. Keeping Windows open for a couple hours really was an accomplishment. 98 got a wee bit better, ME got worse, and XP could almost be called stable, most of the time. WinXP service pack 2 finally made an operating system out of Windows. It would still crash sometimes, but you could actually keep the system up for a week or two at a time. Win7 was an improvement over XP SP2, often staying up for multiple weeks. I can't tell that Win11 is any better - every few weeks it wants to reboot for updates.

            Compare that to any one of the Linux machines I own, which only reboot if A: I decide to do a bunch of updates, and choose to reboot when I finish or B: Power failure.

            It's foolish NOT to make regular backups of your work, under any circumstance. But, I can open a document, get called away, and not return to that document for days, weeks, or months, and that document is still waiting for me when I look for it.

            THAT is what 'stability' means. I never lose work because the system crashed.

            • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Reziac on Tuesday February 06, @02:49AM (2 children)

              by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday February 06, @02:49AM (#1343256) Homepage

              Shoulda let me build your PC. I have had many Windows setups that once I got 'em all set up, NEVER crashed. 3.11, 95, 98, ME (yes really), XP, XP64, 2008R2, and (holding nose) 10, and with uptimes in excess of two years. Absent malware, constant crashing is mostly a symptom of shit hardware or bad drivers. (This PC, XP64, has been up since last October, when the power was out beyond the UPS's capacity.)

              I will say Win7 was not nearly as good, but it seems to be the fancy-ass desktop fucking up the works, as Server2008R2 does not have the problem.

              I used Win95/98 for about 15 years, and between 'em they crashed exactly ONCE -- when Mozilla 1.0 decided to break the rules and grab the modem directly. But I built both systems to my own specs.

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              And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 06, @07:39AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 06, @07:39AM (#1343288)

                You didn't carefully put the machines into vitrines not be touched, did you? Fact of life: WIndows + heavy use = crash.

                • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Wednesday February 07, @12:29AM

                  by Reziac (2489) on Wednesday February 07, @12:29AM (#1343426) Homepage

                  I see the problem; you've misread the label. Stop throwing the PC out the window and it will stop crashing!

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          • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday February 05, @10:02PM

            by Gaaark (41) on Monday February 05, @10:02PM (#1343221) Journal

            like actually having a desktop that didn't suck.

            Precisely why i switched to linux back in 1999 and never looked back. Windows STILL sucks compared to what I'm running.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by dioxide on Monday February 05, @06:01PM (4 children)

    by dioxide (7248) on Monday February 05, @06:01PM (#1343174)

    This tool has saved my life several times over the last few decades.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Snort on Monday February 05, @06:40PM (2 children)

      by Snort (5141) on Monday February 05, @06:40PM (#1343180)

      I had this CD in my pocket when a crazed madman attacked in the subway.

      You can whip these things like throwing stars.

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05, @09:08PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05, @09:08PM (#1343210)

        That explains the headline I read.

        "Crazed madman attacks subway riders, throwing CDs like weapons."

      • (Score: 2) by cereal_burpist on Tuesday February 06, @04:27AM

        by cereal_burpist (35552) on Tuesday February 06, @04:27AM (#1343267)

        That reminds me of many years ago, when a vendor or coworker had an application CD that was shaped like a saw blade. Literally had the teeth cut out on the edge of the disc. Besides looking bad-ass, it also made a distinctive sound while spinning in the optical drive! I can't find any now, but they were probably available as CD-RW back in the day.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05, @07:28PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 05, @07:28PM (#1343193)

      Ditto here, it's useful to have around if you've windows machines to abuse, though I opted for the 'expanded DVD' version of the previous release which was full of more useful software of dubious legality, which I then further padded out with a hell of a lot of other portable apps not found on the standard releases, and some other useful but 'less than kosher' apps.

      As Hirens was getting a wee bit long in the tooth, I switched to using Medicat USB, but haven't had the need to touch either of them now for well over three years.

  • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Monday February 05, @09:52PM (3 children)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Monday February 05, @09:52PM (#1343216) Journal

    I like it. I may even have a use for it: one of my deferred notebooks (Lenovo, 2020) with dual graphics crashes nouveau driver (NetBSD kernel panic in nouveau, Linux dies silently while initializing radeon), funny ACPI tables may need update.

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by RamiK on Tuesday February 06, @02:06AM (2 children)

      by RamiK (1813) on Tuesday February 06, @02:06AM (#1343247)

      Linux dies silently while initializing radeon

      Try blacklisting radeon ("modules_blacklist=radeon") while loading amdgpu early in the initrd. Note if it's an old GCN 1/2 GPU, you'll also need to pass "radeon.si_support=0 radeon.cik_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1 amdgpu.cik_support=1" or it might load the framebuffer module or something...

      If that works out, switching / offloading between the dGPU and the iGPU will be done using PRIME rather than Optimus by passing an envvar to relevant programs: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PRIME#For_open_source_drivers_-_PRIME [archlinux.org]

      There's also the video decoding (and various browser-related tweaks)... wayland/xorg specific configurations... vulkan... compute (if on a recent GCN since the ROCm/kfd/OpenCL stack doesn't work on older GCNs...)... Some optional specific 32bit libraries and such for wine / gaming and such (that you might not need)... But this is around when I switch to using NixOS since trying to roll a desktop/laptop with all that while keeping it up-to-date is a full time job otherwise.

      https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/AMDGPU [archlinux.org]
      https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hardware_video_acceleration [archlinux.org]

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      • (Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday February 06, @08:09AM (1 child)

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 06, @08:09AM (#1343294)
        Linux, heh. Apple won't even let us have Radeon!!
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        • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Tuesday February 06, @10:19AM

          by RamiK (1813) on Tuesday February 06, @10:19AM (#1343312)

          Windows has similar issues with laptop vendor drivers where you often need specific versions and even vendor-specific drivers (like storage drivers and various platform drivers that the likes of Dell package for specific models) along with third party codec packs (klite) and video transcoding software (handbrake)... Sometimes It can get REALLY tricky around storage drivers and fresh installations where you might need to roll installation media by slipstreaming the drivers into the windows installer and recovery image since the installer will simply fail to recognize your drive/network adapter/wifi otherwise.

          The reason we hear more about those issues with linux than windows (besides how the manufacturers at least make sure their own installation media works...) is because linux users are competent enough to look up solutions and ask around while windows users either handover the box to a lab techie or give up and buy a new box.

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  • (Score: 2) by tekk on Monday February 05, @10:07PM (4 children)

    by tekk (5704) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 05, @10:07PM (#1343223)

    HBCD's been a lifesaver for ages. I remember using them back in the 2000's when my dad would scavenge PCs for the hard drive nuke. Not just Windows tools either, at least not traditionally. They've got a Linux gparted-ey thingy on there, some other linux tools, go back to the pre-uefi days and they've got dos tools on there too.

    • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Tuesday February 06, @02:23AM

      by RamiK (1813) on Tuesday February 06, @02:23AM (#1343251)

      A lot of people moved around partitions with Hiren when Microsoft modified the WinRE image since the update and the manual steps Microsoft documented were broken under some circumstances or left unused space: https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=59421&page=1&cid=1340062#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

      Personally I still find myself using Hiren to shrink C: from the start and expand the EFI partition.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by cereal_burpist on Tuesday February 06, @05:19AM (2 children)

      by cereal_burpist (35552) on Tuesday February 06, @05:19AM (#1343280)

      Yes. And I'm surprised no one has mentioned Knoppix.
      https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=knoppix [distrowatch.com]

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by tekk on Tuesday February 06, @01:11PM (1 child)

        by tekk (5704) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 06, @01:11PM (#1343324)

        I don't usually think of Knoppix as a rescue environment (at least no more of one than any other distro.) It *was* my first distro though! Spent a few days booted into Knoppix in the days when it was burned onto a real cd and iirc didn't support install, then moved on to WUBI until I got hardware I could dedicate to Linux c:

        • (Score: 2) by cereal_burpist on Wednesday February 07, @05:19AM

          by cereal_burpist (35552) on Wednesday February 07, @05:19AM (#1343458)

          "when it was burned onto a real cd"
          Yeah, I tried several distros by ordering their CDs from OSDisc_com. Had to check now – they closed shop in 2019:
          OSDisc.com Has Closed [linux.org]

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