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posted by hubie on Wednesday April 03, @03:39PM   Printer-friendly
from the now-you-Suyu-now-you-don't dept.

Switch emulator Suyu—a fork of the Nintendo-targeted and now-defunct emulation project Yuzu—has been taken down from GitLab following a DMCA request Thursday. But the emulation project's open source files remain available on a self-hosted git repo on the Suyu website, and recent compiled binaries remain available on an extant GitLab repo.

While the DMCA takedown request has not yet appeared on GitLab's public repository of such requests, a GitLab spokesperson confirmed to The Verge that the project was taken down after the site received notice "from a representative of the rightsholder." GitLab has not specified who made the request or how they represented themselves; a representative for Nintendo was not immediately available to respond to a request for comment.

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Here's How the Makers of the "Suyu" Switch Emulator Plan to Avoid Getting Sued - 20240318
Switch Emulator Makers Agree to Pay $2.4 Million to Settle Nintendo Lawsuit - 20240308
Emulation Community Expresses Defiance in Wake of Nintendo's Yuzu Lawsuit - 20240303

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Emulation Community Expresses Defiance in Wake of Nintendo's Yuzu Lawsuit 3 comments

Nintendo's recent lawsuit against Switch emulator maker Yuzu seems written like it was designed to strike fear into the heart of the entire emulation community. But despite legal arguments that sometimes cut at the very idea of emulation itself, members of the emulation development community I talked to didn't seem very worried about coming under a Yuzu-style legal threat from Nintendo or other console makers. Indeed, those developers told me they've long taken numerous precautions against that very outcome and said they feel they have good reasons to believe they can avoid Yuzu's fate.
"This lawsuit is not introducing any new element that people in the emulation community have not known of for a long time," said Parsifal, a hobbyist developer who has written emulators for the Apple II, Space Invaders, and the CHIP-8 virtual machine. "Emulation is fine as long as you don't infringe on copyright and trademarks."
And others feel operating internationally protects them from the worst of the DMCA and other US copyright laws. "I have written an NES emulator and I am working on a Game Boy emulator... anyway I'm not a US citizen and Nintendo can kiss my ass," said emulator developer ZJoyKiller, who didn't provide his specific country of residence.
Chief among those differences is the fact that Yuzu emulates a Switch console that is still actively selling millions of hardware and software units every year. Most current emulator development focuses on older, discontinued consoles that the developers I talked to seemed convinced were much less liable to draw legal fire.

Switch Emulator Makers Agree to Pay $2.4 Million to Settle Nintendo Lawsuit 9 comments

The makers of Switch emulator Yuzu say they will "consent to judgment in favor of Nintendo" to settle a major lawsuit filed by the console maker last week.

In a series of filings posted by the court Monday, the Yuzu developers agreed to pay $2.4 million in "monetary relief" and to cease "offering to the public, providing, marketing, advertising, promoting, selling, testing, hosting, cloning, distributing, or otherwise trafficking in Yuzu or any source code or features of Yuzu."

[...] ending "effective immediately," along with support for 3DS emulator Citra (which shares many of the same developers)

[...] The proposed final judgment, which still has to be agreed to by the judge in the case, fully accepts Nintendo's stated position that "Yuzu is primarily designed to circumvent [Nintendo's copy protection] and play Nintendo Switch games" by "using unauthorized copies of Nintendo Switch cryptographic keys."

[...] While that admission doesn't technically account for Yuzu's ability to run a long list of Switch homebrew programs, proving that such homebrew was a significant part of the "ordinary course" of the average Yuzu user's experience may have been an uphill battle in court. Nintendo argued in its lawsuit that "the vast majority of Yuzu users are using Yuzu to play downloaded pirated games in Yuzu," a fact that could have played against the emulator maker at trial even if non-infringing uses for the emulator do exist.

[...] While emulator programs are generally protected by US legal precedents protecting reverse engineering, console makers could bring similar DMCA actions against certain emulators that rely on the use of cryptographic keys to break copy protection. But many emulator makers feel that such hardball lawsuits are less likely to be brought against emulators for defunct systems that are no longer selling new hardware or software in significant numbers.

[...] Nintendo's legal department has established a track record of zealously defending its copyrighted works by going after fangames, ROM distribution sites, and hardware modders in the past. While direct legal action against emulator makers has been less common for Nintendo, the company did send a letter to Valve to prevent Wii/Gamecube emulator Dolphin from appearing on Steam last year.

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Emulation Community Expresses Defiance in Wake of Nintendo's Yuzu Lawsuit - 20240303

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Here's How the Makers of the “Suyu” Switch Emulator Plan to Avoid Getting Sued 14 comments

Last week, the developers behind the popular Switch emulator Yuzu took down their GitLab and web presence in the face of a major lawsuit from Nintendo. Now, a new project built from the Yuzu source code, cheekily named Suyu, has arisen as "the continuation of the world's most popular, open-source Nintendo Switch emulator, Yuzu."

Despite the name—which the project's GitLab page notes is "pronounced 'sue-you' (wink, wink)"—the developers behind Suyu are going out of their way to try to avoid a lawsuit like the one that took down Yuzu.
After consulting with an unnamed "someone with legal experience" (Sharpie would only say "they claimed three years of law school"), the Suyu development team has decided to avoid "any monetization," Sharpie said. The project's GitLab page clearly states that "we do not intend to make money or profit from this project," an important declaration after Nintendo cited Yuzu's profitability a few times in its recent lawsuit. Other emulator makers also told Ars that Yuzu's Patreon opened the project up to a set of pesky consumer demands and expectations.

The Suyu devs have also been warned against "providing step-by-step guides" like the ones that Yuzu offered for how to play copyrighted games on their emulator. Those guides were a major focus of Nintendo's lawsuit, as were some examples of developer conversations in the Yuzu Discord that seemed to acknowledge and condone piracy.
The Suyu GitLab page is upfront that the developers "do not support or condone piracy in any form," a message that didn't appear on Yuzu's GitLab page or website.

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by pkrasimirov on Wednesday April 03, @04:54PM (1 child)

    by pkrasimirov (3358) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 03, @04:54PM (#1351498)

    Dmcayu coming next.

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday April 03, @05:21PM

      by Freeman (732) on Wednesday April 03, @05:21PM (#1351501) Journal

      Seems legit

      Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by rpnx on Wednesday April 03, @07:29PM (1 child)

    by rpnx (13892) on Wednesday April 03, @07:29PM (#1351519) Journal

    Competition and fair use should be First Amendment rights.

    Allowing parties to enforce the DMCA against circumstances that would have been fair use infringes upon my understanding of the First Amendment.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 03, @08:40PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 03, @08:40PM (#1351525)

      Competition and fair use should be First Amendment rights.

      They are. The DMCA, and the CDA are direct violations, but corrupt judges say otherwise, so we're kinda fucked, until we vote out the corrupt legislature that made these laws. Fat chance, right?

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by crafoo on Wednesday April 03, @08:24PM

    by crafoo (6639) on Wednesday April 03, @08:24PM (#1351522)

    Not only should we encourage reverse-engineering and reproduction of technology on our own shores, we should provide federal bounties for people that are successful doing this. This is actually how this country's industry was born. Our government paid bounties for technically-minded people to transfer England's industrial tech and build the factories here, in America. There is nothing more American than tech bounties and tariffs.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by loonycyborg on Wednesday April 03, @08:33PM

    by loonycyborg (6905) on Wednesday April 03, @08:33PM (#1351523)

    Pirates still have their tool to make releases of switch games, while this cost homebrew community a lot of credibility along with the loss of the way to support the project with Patreon. Good job, Nintendo!

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by jasassin on Thursday April 04, @01:12AM

    by jasassin (3566) <> on Thursday April 04, @01:12AM (#1351583) Homepage Journal

    I was looking through the git code to see what has changed from yuzu. These guys just seem to be farting around with licensing files and stupid shit (total piddling around like a 2 year old) that totally makes me not trust these guys at all. Look at their git and look at the code that got pushed! WTF!? As far as I'm concerned that project is dead.

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