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posted by janrinok on Sunday July 28 2024, @10:39PM   Printer-friendly

https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206529/intel-13th-14th-gen-crashing-instability-cpu-voltage-q-a

On Monday, it initially seemed like the beginning of the end for Intel's desktop CPU instability woes — the company confirmed a patch is coming in mid-August that should address the "root cause" of exposure to elevated voltage. But if your 13th or 14th Gen Intel Core processor is already crashing, that patch apparently won't fix it.

Citing unnamed sources, Tom's Hardware reports that any degradation of the processor is irreversible, and an Intel spokesperson did not deny that when we asked. Intel is "confident" the patch will keep it from happening in the first place. (As another preventative measure, you should update your motherboard BIOS ASAP.) But if your defective CPU has been damaged, your best option is to replace it instead of tweaking BIOS settings to try and alleviate the problems.

And, Intel confirms, too-high voltages aren't the only reason some of these chips are failing. Intel spokesperson Thomas Hannaford confirms it's a primary cause, but the company is still investigating. Intel community manager Lex Hoyos also revealed some instability reports can be traced back to an oxidization manufacturing issue that was fixed at an unspecified date last year.


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by looorg on Monday July 29 2024, @12:49AM (2 children)

    by looorg (578) on Monday July 29 2024, @12:49AM (#1366064)

    Intel has not halted sales or clawed back any inventory. It will not do a recall, period.

    So how common is it? Clearly they still appear to crunch numbers. A recall isn't in the numbers as of yet. A refurb replacement?

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Ingar on Monday July 29 2024, @09:59AM (1 child)

      by Ingar (801) on Monday July 29 2024, @09:59AM (#1366134) Homepage Journal

      I've seen numbers ranging from 30% to 50% affected (for the 13900K and the 14900K).
      There is of course a lot of educated guess work involved, but it looks bad.

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      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by looorg on Monday July 29 2024, @11:43AM

        by looorg (578) on Monday July 29 2024, @11:43AM (#1366141)

        That would be horrific, for Intel. It's hard to find a good number but how many actual processors are that? Hundreds of millions of units? 50 million? After all if it's both the 13th and 14th generation that would be more or less all computers sold with an Intel CPU for several years now. If somewhere between a third and half of those are crapping out and well the remainder are just waiting to that is a lot of replacements. Could Intel even replace all of them? It's not a minor recall in that regard.

  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday July 30 2024, @03:10PM

    by Freeman (732) on Tuesday July 30 2024, @03:10PM (#1366350) Journal

    They just can't fix the already permanently damaged CPUs. New ones won't ship with the defect and ones that aren't already damaged can be fixed.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 30 2024, @11:05PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 30 2024, @11:05PM (#1366398)

    What the fuck's a generation? What year? No fucking clue and can't find the info.

    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday July 30 2024, @11:27PM

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 30 2024, @11:27PM (#1366402) Journal
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    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday July 30 2024, @11:30PM (1 child)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 30 2024, @11:30PM (#1366403) Journal

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_processors [wikipedia.org]

      Perhaps this is better...

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 31 2024, @02:17PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 31 2024, @02:17PM (#1366479)

        Thanks! That's a relief, it's new ones. All my shit is 10 years old.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 31 2024, @06:57PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 31 2024, @06:57PM (#1366518)

      Seriously? A simple google search will tell you what the processor generations are.

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