""After almost 100 years on the planet, I now understand the most important place on Earth is not on land, but at sea.""
(Sir David Attenborough, at the presentation of Oceans.)
The world's oceans hold between 50 and 60 times more carbon dioxide than there's present in the atmosphere; each year they absorb about 30% of the CO2 being released into the atmosphere. Annually, between 86 and 94 million tonnes of fish are caught in the wild from oceans and seas, while aquaculture yielded 92.4 million tonnes in 2022.
In short, the oceans are pretty important for humanity.
Not everybody is convinced about that though. Bottom trawling is still a dominant fishing "tactic", there's so much plastic pollution you can use it as orientation points from space -- with an expectation that the amount of plastic reaching the oceans will double each year until 2040 -- and now, more recently, there's the push to start mining the ocean floor with robots in search of precious metals.
Let's try to manage our oceans responsibly for future generations, argued the United Nations in 2023 in New York -- and drafted a first version of the High Seas Treaty. That draft is now being worked out further during a conference at Nice, France, running from June 9 until June 30.
While the main highlight being reported in the media is about declaring 30 percent of the oceans to be off-limits for human industrial activity (including fishing) by 2030, the treaty is ostensibly going to be about much more than that, if you look at the inputs to the draft treaty by different countries.
The European Union wants more financial assistance and market access for small-scale fisheries, combined with strategies to minimize bycatch and discard rates; the United States also wants more attention to small-scale fishing, along with better monitoring and collaboration and focus on the impact of climate change; China is worried about ecosystem restoration and protection of deep-sea ecosystems, Indonesia wants restrictions on fisheries subsidies as these promote overcapacity and overfishing, ... and so on; even Interpol wants to have a say about marine pollution.
About a hundred countries put their signatures under the original draft proposal in New York, formally called the Treaty on Biological Diversity Beyond National Jurisdiction. If 60 of these original 100 put their signatures under the finalised treaty during this conference, the oceans will have their first (global) legal protection.
According to Greenpeace, less than 2 percent of the world's oceans is currently protected against human industrial activity.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Mojibake Tengu on Tuesday June 10, @08:52PM (13 children)
If only the Greenpeace ceased to behave as a terrorist organization before they could be taken seriously.
https://www.franceinfo.fr/politique/emmanuel-macron/la-statue-de-cire-d-emmanuel-macron-volee-au-musee-grevin-a-paris-greenpeace-revendique-le-vol_7287342.html [franceinfo.fr]
"A man presented himself as a militant of Greenpeace..." Literally.
Rust programming language offends both my Intelligence and my Spirit.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Tuesday June 10, @09:10PM
Apparently one of them decided to stage an anti-nuclear protest at Sizewell B nuclear power station in the UK many years ago. The idiot climbed up onto the reactor dome while it was on load. I hope he got the hair on his chest he so clearly wanted.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 3, Touché) by gawdonblue on Tuesday June 10, @09:19PM
The French calling GreenPeace terrorists? Sacrebleu! [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday June 10, @09:44PM (1 child)
Greenpeace impressed me once, in the 1990s, they identified the source of mercury that was killing the alligators in the Florida everglades. They successfully got the Palm Beach garbage incinerators shut down and shortly thereafter the alligators stopped dying young with toxic levels of mercury in their bodies. To show my gratitude, I gave Greenpeace a $20 donation (which was actually quite a bit of money for me, at the time.)
They hounded me for years about anti-nuclear and all kinds of other campaigns I disagreed with them about. They finally lost track of me when I moved to another city.
🌻🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by Snotnose on Tuesday June 10, @11:15PM
Not just Greenpeace.Back in the 80s I joined the NRA. Before I even got my "Welcome" mail I started getting an avalanche of "send us money" "renew renew renew" "did you know you can renew in advance" etc etc etc.
I never renewed my membership, and I'm real careful who I give money to nowdays.
Of course I'm against DEI. Donald, Eric, and Ivanka.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by corey on Wednesday June 11, @01:55AM (7 children)
I disagree that Greenpeace are a terrorist organisation, that's just crazy. You're making a biased assertion and cherrypicking to support it.
Maybe you could suggest ways for Greenpeace to make actual change in this world. Does sitting down at COP meetings and conferences at nice cities achieve anything?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday June 11, @03:40AM (6 children)
The problem isn't making "actual change". Rather it's making positive change. Fabricating problems, a Greenpeace standard isn't ever going to lead to positive change.
(Score: 4, Touché) by janrinok on Wednesday June 11, @07:41AM (5 children)
So the genocide in Gaza isn't, in your view, anything that normal people should be concerned about?
I wonder why we made such a fuss about it 80 or so years ago? Or when the Turks did it. And when the Russians did it, and are still doing it.
[nostyle RIP 06 May 2025]
(Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Wednesday June 11, @10:46AM (4 children)
The Israelis were able to stop Hamas.
If on the other hand, you allege some genocide by Israel, shouldn't you get some evidence first? Narratives of genocide were part of the propaganda battle from the very beginning. For example, on October 12 [soylentnews.org] (~5 days after the attack), we were already talking about it on SN - with similar levels of evidence.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 11, @03:37PM (1 child)
Flat earther found.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday June 11, @05:53PM
(Score: 3, Touché) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday June 11, @07:09PM (1 child)
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/gaza-before-after-google-earth-updates-images-b1228761.html [standard.co.uk]
🌻🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 1, Disagree) by khallow on Wednesday June 11, @10:28PM
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 11, @02:28PM
This reminds me of the debate between Donald Rumsfeld and critics of the Iraq War - you remember, that absolute shitshow built on lies. Donald was so offended by the impertinence of the interviewer that there was simply no time left to discuss, ya know, the absolute shitshow built on lies. Let's do the same with Greenpeace. How should they properly address power, this is the key question for us to ponder.