from the and-what-are-you-going-to-use-for-RAM? dept.
12-core chiplets coming to Zen 6?
Following Ryzen 9000, AMD is set to release its next-gen Ryzen 10000 series processors this year — assuming the company sticks to its existing nomenclature. These upcoming desktop CPUs from AMD are codenamed "Olympic Ridge" and will be based on the company's new Zen 6 microarchitecture. Today, a new leak from reliable tipster HXL says we can expect seven different configs as part of this lineup, across dual- and single-CCD SKUs.
According to the [information in a tweet], Ryzen 10000 will come in 6-core, 8-core, 10-core, and 12-core layouts as part of the single CCD designs. For the variants with two CCDs, you have 16-core (8+8), 20-core (10+10) and 24-core (12+12) made possible by simply doubling the chiplets. Either way, the lineup looks to be flexible enough to span from entry-level to power users and professionals.
This will mark the first time in Ryzen history that AMD ventures outside of its 8-core CCDs, by introducing new chiplets maxing out at 12 cores instead. Each of those CCDs is said to carry 48 MB of L3 cache, which shall make the flagship (non-X3D) SKU a 96 MB option. Throughout Zen 1 to Zen 5, the highest-end config for Ryzen chips has been 16 cores, but it should finally be upgraded to 24 cores with Ryzen 10000.
Now, comparing that to what Intel has in store with Nova Lake, that's an entirely different story. Current rumors suggest Nova Lake's flagship offering will be a monstrous 52-core SKU, with possibly 288 MB of bLLC (also across two tiles). Unlike the Red Team, Intel doesn't seem to be interested in segregating its extra-cache CPUs as a separate lineup entirely.
Apart from the core layouts of these chips, the underlying architecture is also of interest, since Zen 6 is said to usher in IPC improvements and higher clock speeds, while still working on the existing AM5 platform — the same cannot be said for Intel. It's a little too early to judge any of this, since Intel's Arrow Lake refresh isn't even out yet , and AMD hasn't made Ryzen 10000 official, beyond the Olympic Ridge codename. But hopefully, by the time we know all the details about AMD's next-gen CPUs, the price of RAM will also be a bit more affordable.
(Score: 3, Touché) by looorg on Friday February 27, @11:34AM (4 children)
I wouldn't hold my breath or anything. You might get a fancy new CPU. But the GPU, RAM and storage will rob you blind. Cause apparently "AI" and "Datacenters" are now the preferred customers.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by shrewdsheep on Friday February 27, @02:41PM (1 child)
I'm wondering how the replacement cycle looks like for the "hyperscalars". How often is hardware replaced? Is old hardware sold off? I would imagine that hardware is used for maybe 5 yrs and a lot of hardware could be sold off but this doesn't seem to happen. Amazon's offerings should allow to roughly determine the life cycle.
No new hardware for me at least this year...
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Freeman on Friday February 27, @03:19PM
I upgraded my GPU and monitor not that long ago. I got a decent deal on these: https://www.amazon.com/LG-32GS60QC-B-Ultragear-2560x1440-DisplayPort/dp/B0D2FSYS5J [amazon.com] (Mine runs horrible at 1080p, but smooth as a hot knife through butter at 1440p for whatever reason.) and https://www.newegg.com/asus-dual-rx9060xt-16g-white-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16gb-graphics-card-double-fans/p/N82E16814126818 [newegg.com] (No idea why it's literally 2x what I paid for it as the black one is only about $90 more than what I paid for it.) I got it essentially the day after it was released with a $10 discount on Newegg. I figured $400+tax was going to be the cheapest I was going to find it or any 16GB card in the foreseeable future. I have been looking at just getting this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4853084 [newegg.com] $200 combo deal for 32GB of DD4 RAM and a Ryzen 5500. Just for the CPU and then offloading the RAM to ebay, essentially recouping the cost of the combo and getting a free CPU. However, I don't know that I care enough to do that. My Ryzen 5 3600 is not likely to be much better/worse than the 5500 and CPUs aren't generally the thing that dies. I also already have 32GB of 3600mhz RAM. Which is plenty for my use cases. Not running too far up there even with VR experiences. Which are probably the most memory hungry things I do. I also can't afford to go crazy on the AI stuff like everything seems to be doing. Even, if I could, I couldn't justify it to myself to spend $2k+ on a GPU or multiple $2k+ GPUs to get anywhere near "good performing AI". That said, maybe I just haven't tried it on my current setup and it's better than I would expect?
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by Username on Friday February 27, @03:31PM (1 child)
Buy the RAM and HHDs used from data centers. Pennies on the dollar.
(Score: 2) by epitaxial on Friday February 27, @04:48PM
Today or when the bubble pops?
(Score: 0, Troll) by Username on Friday February 27, @03:23PM (2 children)
If TSMC is making all of AMDs processors, shouldn't we just call it TSMC's zen6 line up? I never understood how one place in China can make all of something, under different brand names, and it's not their work.
(Score: 3, Touché) by r1348 on Friday February 27, @07:49PM
So you don't understand the difference between design and manufacturing?
(Score: 2) by higuita on Tuesday March 03, @12:08AM
Brand everything them as "stuff from china", almost everything is build there!!
and by the way, TSMC is "Taiwan", not exactly "China" (while China wants you to think like that)