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Carrie Fisher, the actress best known as Star Wars' Princess Leia Organa, has died after suffering a heart attack. She was 60.
Family spokesman Simon Halls released a statement to PEOPLE on behalf of Fisher's daughter, Billie Lourd:
"It is with a very deep sadness that Billie Lourd confirms that her beloved mother Carrie Fisher passed away at 8:55 this morning," reads the statement.
"She was loved by the world and she will be missed profoundly," says Lourd. "Our entire family thanks you for your thoughts and prayers."
Source: http://people.com/movies/carrie-fisher-dies/
[UPDATE:]
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NPR reports: Actress Debbie Reynolds Dies A Day After Daughter Carrie Fisher's Death.
That means that Billie Lourd, who had a minor role in Star Wars: The Force Awakens and was slated for a part in the sequel, Star Wars: Episode VIII, lost both her mother and her grandmother in the same week.
(Score: 2) by AndyTheAbsurd on Tuesday December 27 2016, @06:15PM
I figured that this was coming when I read that she'd had 15 minutes of CPR on the flight from London to L.A. Turns out that the medium-term rates of survival post-CPR are surprisingly low.
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(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday December 27 2016, @06:21PM
Yeah, CPR buys you a few minutes, not 15.
60 is pretty young these days. Supposedly she had a history of drug abuse but still....
Anyway, RIP. Say what you will but she definitely had an effect on this nerd.
(Score: 3, Funny) by edIII on Tuesday December 27 2016, @06:40PM
Yeah, I would say that kicking ass in that bikini had a rather large effect on nerds everywhere :)
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 5, Funny) by jcross on Tuesday December 27 2016, @08:29PM
A larger effect for some of us than others...
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Tuesday December 27 2016, @11:39PM
That is why they really need to have some pure oxygen on hand in places where you can be away from serious medical care for an extended period of time like planes and boats, because its lack of oxygen that kills you. My mom was a critical care nurse for nearly 30 years and said it didn't matter how good you were at CPR you just couldn't get enough oxygen into their system if they aren't breathing on their own so you have a couple minutes at most to get them breathing again or you are gonna start having cells die.
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday December 28 2016, @10:43AM
That is why they really need to have some pure oxygen on hand in places where you can be away from serious medical care for an extended period of time like planes and boats, because its lack of oxygen that kills you.
Not good enough, if your heart isn't pumping. I see this more as an argument for an AED [wikipedia.org] on every plane (which probably was on the plane in Mrs. Fisher's case).
(Score: 2) by Dunbal on Tuesday December 27 2016, @06:32PM
Yep - especially for CPR performed outside an advanced life support setting. Turns out 100% oxygen and all those drugs we give you are pretty important - who'da thought. Survival starts at 70% and goes rapidly downhill from there - and that's IN HOSPITAL.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:22PM
Also cabin pressure is usually not sea level, so if she got 100% o2 in the cabin thats like ... I donno maybe 8Kft pressure is about 2/3 air pressure so we'll say sixty or seventy percent O2 on the ground? If she had 100% O2 on the plane during CPR (they bagged her instead of breathing into her)
(Score: 1) by Francis on Tuesday December 27 2016, @07:55PM
I wonder how long until AEDs become standard on planes. Hopefully her death will shine a spotlight on the lack of equipment on many flights. It's not like the devices are that expensive either. The school I work for has one in the next room just in case and we're in town minutes from a hospital.
If they were working on her with CPR, they must not have had a defibrillator on hand.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Dunbal on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:07PM
I wonder how long until AEDs become standard on planes.
Defibrillators are only good for a very narrow range of life threatening heart rhythm problems. It makes me chuckle when I see how overboard Americans have gone with them. Yes, it's a useful tool and can save a life so there is something to the "but if it saves just one life" argument... However thinking they're a magic bullet that will save absolutely everyone is delusional. But that's politics, not medicine. What would be interesting would be to read an investigation into just how many lives have actually been saved by AED's installed in public places and administered by laypeople and compare that to say the cost of installing and maintaining this equipment.
(Score: 2) by SomeGuy on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:46PM
That is because on fictional TV programs things like defibrillators, CPR, and removing bullets works almost 100% of the time. And the idiots believe everything they see on TV.
(Score: 1) by Francis on Tuesday December 27 2016, @10:34PM
The success rate for CPR in situations like this is pretty low. Adding an AED to CPR increases the survival rate from 14% to 23%.
Considering how poor the survival rate is for out of hospital heartattacks, that's a huge improvement. But, unless you know where the person is going to be, you have to have the devices spread through the building to ensure they're available when need be.
Despite the badmouthing if Americans by dunbal, emergency care in the U.S. is some of the best in the world.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Francis on Tuesday December 27 2016, @10:27PM
CPR is almost never effective and yet we train people on it. By your argument we shouldn't be wasting money on that either.
A plane is precisely the place for this sort of invention. Even on a short flight it can take a half hour or more just to land during which time you can't be performing CPR. Trans Atlantic runs are even worse where it's a matter of hours before reaching a.c. airport.
It may well be that it wouldn't have saved her, but CPR is barely effective. Even in hospitals it has a low rate of success.
At the place I work there are hundreds of people nearby most days, so having one makes sense for the same reason that we have a firstaid out and fire extinguishers. Fire extinguishers are only for use in a small number of instances and require maintainance, but we have those as well.
(Score: 2) by Dunbal on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:56AM
CPR is almost never effective and yet we train people on it.
Incorrect. CPR is 70% effective if applied in the first minute of cardiac arrest. That is a lot closer to "almost always" than "almost never". You seriously want to argue that something 70% effective is just as significant as something 20% effective go right ahead but that doesn't make you right.
(Score: 1) by Francis on Wednesday December 28 2016, @08:25AM
It's 70% if it's applied within minutes, by professionals at a hospital. It's more or less zero if you're in the backcountry. Other situations are somewhere between, but CPR alone works 14% of the time, but even then, it's highly dependent upon having the care to back it up promptly. Usually, a crash cart.
So yes, it's pretty much ineffective, you're not going to bring somebody back with CPR alone in most cases. The efficacy of CPR is completely dependent upon eeking out enough time for professionals to arrive with things like the crash cart and oxygen. It's hardly relevant to the situation where somebody is onboard a plane without immediate access to the ICU and as others have stated oxygen.
It's rather dishonest to over-inflate the numbers because it's not convenient to the argument you're looking to make. I wouldn't personally consider 1/7 to be very good odds, especially not when technology is available to significantly improve the likelihood of survival. Even there, that 1/7 makes assumptions about the people who are performing it doing it right, and often times they don't.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:00PM
It depends a lot on how cardiac arrest started. If it's a due to a clogged artery, then it doesn't help much because the heart can't restart, so the chest compressions are the only thing moving blood around. If, on the other hand, it's that the electrical signals stopped because of a lightning strike or other kind of electric shock, then the odds are much better, because once the blood is flowing the electrical signals can start again (in this situation, defibrillator is preferred, but if you don't have one, CPR is worth trying).
My sister has been a wilderness-certified EMT, and is now about to graduate med school with a specialization in emergency medicine. CPR is absolutely worth trying if you're out of other options. Like any other procedure, it doesn't always work. Losing patients is part of the job when you're doing this professionally, even if you do everything right, but that effort improves the odds.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:39AM
cost of installing and maintaining potential cost of lawsuit for not having one around. That's the way things work in the US.
(but the next step then becomes is, how much would an insurance product be to insure your organization, site or business for said situation happening, especially in states with liability limits in situations like this?)
(Score: 2) by isostatic on Wednesday December 28 2016, @12:52AM
Since 2004, the Federal Aviation Authority has required all US commercial airlines to carry AEDs on passenger flights that are large enough to have at least one flight attendant and to train cabin crew in their use.
(Score: 1) by Francis on Wednesday December 28 2016, @08:28AM
Interesting, I took a look for that information, but the search didn't really find anything specific to the case. I found a few allegations of flight attendants refusing to use the AED onboard, but they weren't from a reputable source, so I ignored them.
How does that apply to international flights though? Those are the ones where it's really important to have them as the flights are often times in places where you can't divert to another airport because somebody got sick, they also tend to be longer, which increases the likelihood of somebody having their illness onboard.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:29PM
There seems to be this underlying assumption in the two sided argument that she died because of a cardiac rhythm problem almost certainly caused by not hooking her up to the AED when it was discovered. Meanwhile the opfor is pointing out that an AED is utterly useless does nothing at all if a large enough artery is blocked by a clot or whatever and the AED people are having nothing of that argument.
My guess is the people talking about the miracle of the AED have access to a (possibly false) news report that she died of a verified cardiac rhythm problem or they're way more into her medical history than I am and she has a history of cardiac rhythm problems due to massive coke use or whatever and they're falsely assuming that if she has one heart problem its impossible to die of another separate heart problem (like blood vessel blockage)
If the AED folk would provide a link to some report that its already determined to be a cardiac rhythm problem then that would kinda end the specific argument about her death.
An AED is not a magic wand of "cure light cardiac wound" that you wave and any heart problem is magically cured. They don't actually do a hell of a lot except for nearly magically hands off automatically solving one very specific heart rhythm problem. Like if a patient's implanted pacemaker failed and there's a AED on board the survival rate goes from about 0% to about 100% if properly attached to the person quickly enough. But AEDs don't do jack for most vessel blockages (what you think there's a tiny toothbrush robot implanted that cleans the vessels?) or gunshots thru the heart or strokes or wtf else.
There is one vessel blockage scenario where an AED will save the patient which is when the blockage kills the cells that are your natural pacemaker and the AED will keep them booted up until a pacemaker can be implanted. But it has to be a pretty peculiar blockage to kill those cells but not kill enough heart cells to otherwise kill the patient anyway.
They're at the position of the hype cycle graph where they can do no wrong and can fix anything. Soon we'll reach the trough of the hype cycle graph where everyone knows they're nearly totally useless. The long term reality is they're useful occasionally, may as well have one around and hook it up.
In the long run the idea of an external pacemaker only will probably get expanded into a med-kit like from a FPS that magically does a ton of shit to anyone who's really sick, so they're a cool "gateway drug" into the future, so the future is a good reason to support AEDs today even if they're mostly useless today. Someday AED version 2352.4 is gonna have on board blood chemistry testing and ingrown toenail robotic surgery arm and be able to remove your tonsils and/or perform vasectomies. Something like a super-AED is going to be the future of health care, maybe in 50 years. In that way, encouraging shitty does almost nothing version 1.0 is a good idea if for no reason beyond I can't wait for version 2.0 to be released on our way to that version 2352.4 mentioned above.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:29PM
Do note that the heart massage part of CPR is to provide pumping action when the heart itself is not working, while a defibrillator is meant to stop an irregularity in the electrical signals in the heart (fibrillation) that prevents the coordinated contraction necessary for good pumping.
The two cases can overlap, but don't have to. Not all heart problems are due to irregularity in the electrical signals.
(Score: 2) by looorg on Tuesday December 27 2016, @07:22PM
Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope! ... to soon?
(Score: 5, Funny) by Nerdfest on Tuesday December 27 2016, @07:28PM
There is no "too soon", only "not funny enough".
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27 2016, @07:33PM
She dissed Trump, now is dead.
Also, like every woman today: is a feminist.
Thank's Putin. Don't know how he pulled it off but he does not suffer a bitch to live.
(Score: 3, Informative) by mechanicjay on Tuesday December 27 2016, @07:45PM
I'm going to have some downtime the rest of the week, think Empire, Jedi and The Blues Brothers just shot to the top of my queue...Time to dust off the Laserdiscs.
This nerd has quite a few sads over this.
My VMS box beat up your Windows box.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday December 28 2016, @09:24AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Touché) by ticho on Tuesday December 27 2016, @07:50PM
Listen, 2016, sit down for a minute. We need to talk. This is an intervention. We all love you, but you need to stop being greedy, you've taken enough already.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by nethead on Tuesday December 27 2016, @08:18PM
No, FUCK 2016. Bad year.
How did my SN UID end up over 3 times my /. UID?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:13PM
Mick Jagger is still alive, isn't he?
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:20PM
and Keith Richards too, somehow...
I've never had a problem with drugs. I've had problems with the police.
(found on wiki)
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Magic Oddball on Wednesday December 28 2016, @12:56AM
Same thought here. A BBC report [bbc.com] on the annual tallies of people they printed pre–prepared obits for shows:
2012 — 16
2013 — 24
2014 — 29
2015 — 32
2016 — 45 (they say 42, but that was a couple of weeks ago)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:41PM
Interesting trend. I was wondering if the seemingly increased rate of famous deaths was due to observational bias on my side or if there was an actual underlying reason for it.
Two ideas come to mind so far:
- the baby boomers "boom" is starting to show also in death numbers
- mass media+American expert of culture didn't take off until the 50s or 60s.
(Before then, not enough people had their own colour tv).
Not saying to American artists weren't known worldwide, but after the 60s it was way easier to reach a global audience than before.
What do you think? Coincidence? Actuarial unavoidability? Mass media-induced normalisation of death rate? A combination of all of the above? Something else?
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday December 28 2016, @03:24PM
pre–prepared obits
They had obituaries written in advance for people they expected to die?
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by AndyTheAbsurd on Wednesday December 28 2016, @07:56PM
Yeah, this is standard operating procedure for large news organizations. They want to be able to have a nice long "retrospective on the life of $WHOEVER" up on the web site within seconds of confirming that the person is actually dead, in order to get more eyeballs (and therefore more ad revenue) and possibly better search index positioning. So they pre-write most of the obituary and fill in details of how and when the person actually died just before publishing.
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(Score: 3, Flamebait) by jelizondo on Tuesday December 27 2016, @08:09PM
While it is sad that Carrie Fisher has passed away and in no way demeaning her success, I find it troubling that not one pip about Vera Rubin’s [theverge.com] death appeared in this site, supposedly peopled by folks who would know who she was.
It is no wonder Trump won when otherwise intelligent people care more about an actress than a scientist.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Tuesday December 27 2016, @08:30PM
Blow it out your butt :)
What I find troubling is that you went through all that trouble to post a link, but couldn't submit a story. How were we supposed to know? We rely on users submitting stories of interest here. You could take that story, talk about her accomplishments, and then wish her well. That "pip" you're searching for can come from you.... "Jelizondo writes:"
Sounds like a good story, so perhaps you should submit it here? I checked the submission queue and she is nowhere to be found. Write something up to explain her accomplishments to the non-astrophysicists here, and contribute something.
I enjoyed the article, and I appreciated you bringing it here. It would be even better as not something off-topic in a thread honoring someone that has had a large impact on the world of sci-fi.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:08PM
It was the top fucking story on more relevant sites like Voat and Drudge
(Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Tuesday December 27 2016, @10:10PM
Annnnnnnnnnnndddddddddd? Did somebody submit the stories there, or did they have paid staff that does it all?
The way it works around here is that users submit stories, and it's not just staff. They're around for other things, and we have editors to help with what you submit. So now we have two people who can't figure out how to contribute and post a story, but can find the time to bitch and denigrate the site for what?
It's kind of pathetic that you get so bent out of shape, when at towards the upper right of your screen it says how many articles there are, the left has the submit story button, AND you have every ability to check the submissions and pending queue.
I'm giving jelizondo another hour or so, then I AM submitting the story. Then we will have it HERE as well. Of course, I'm not an astrophysicist, so I'm not the best candidate for the submission. Immerman or Tathra could probably say something nice and meaningful (they're two people that seem quite knowledgeable).
If you care so much, you can do the exact same thing and honor her here..... but will you spend yet even more effort flaming us, when instead you can write about how you admired her and the contributions to science she gave us?
You can click the submit button. It won't hurt. Pwomise.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27 2016, @08:55PM
It is no wonder Trump won when otherwise intelligent people care more about an actress than a scientist.
You must be new here.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by VLM on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:17PM
Rubin was a medium size player, Fischer was a top billing actress, so she's gonna win.
Rubin pretty much is famous for two things. First is around the turn of the last century there is no ether confuses many people who aren't paying attention into thinking "we" have no net velocity, but she did a lot of work with cosmic background redshift or maybe it was galactic redshift but whatever the details don't matter. The other thing she's famous for is again more redshift doppler stuff hmm galaxies seem to be rotating so fast that they should fly apart unless they have shittons of dark matter or dark energy or something not glowing like a star creating lots of extra gravity to hold them together. Its interesting important stuff but someone would have figured it out sooner or later.
Now I'll throw out two possibly controversial analogies. Lets say Steve Jobs hung on alive till now and Widlar never turned into a drunk causing him to die extremely young. Now its true that Widlar ruled 60's era linear integrated circuits with his crazy yet brilliant current mirrors and band gap references and larger designs like some kick ass opamps for their day and a power supply chip that I actually used just 20 years ago and is still being made AFAIK. Bandgap references are stereotypical EE product where you take a pile of ridiculously non-linear components and wiring them up just so in opposition to each other, you get something shockingly linear or in the case of a bandgap reference, its a constant voltage regardless of, well, most anything, temp, power supply, etc. I chose Widlar because he's famous for two things, his mirror topology (there are others) and his voltage reference (again there are other, newer, better ones) which is similar to Rubin being mostly famous for two things.
Anyway in my analogy I guarantee if Jobs died yet again or whatever today and so did Widlar that Jobs will get all the coverage. Its just kinda how it is.
Something fascinating about Jobs, Fischer, Widlar all those folks had trouble with chemical abuse and died pretty damn young. So this is an interesting time to be alive in early Gen-X or whatever because healthy clean living pre-war hero's of the old days are finally getting around to dying while boomers who took very poor care of themselves are dying at the same time as ancient pre-WWII healthy people. Living a chemically enhanced lifestyle seems to cost between one and two generations of life. I'm too lazy to look it up but if Rubin had been an alkie like Widlar and died at 30 like Widlar I donno if she would have lived long enough (sober enough?) to have done anything famous.
Theres also an aspect of political correctness, Rubin was all feminist rah rah in her later years and if she were, say, a right wing man, I guarantee for political reasons we'd not be hearing about her at all. But because she was a woman in a man's field theres lots of popular science coverage implying she invented the universe, the galaxy, math, BS like that. Don't get me wrong, she was a cool minor player in the field. But just a minor player. Only getting the extra coverage in the news any other minor player would never get, because of her genitals.
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Wednesday December 28 2016, @10:03PM
Props for mentioning Widlar. He along with Pease and Williams are the unsung heroes of the analog world.
But it strikes me as odd that you didn't mention Dennis Ritchie. Ritchie passed away Oct 11th, 2011. less than a week after Steve Jobs who passed away Oct 5th. He didn't get the same mention that Jobs did. Oddly enough, Jim Williams and Bob Pease passed away within a week of each other that same year in June. Pease on the 18th and Williams on the 12th. 2011 was a very sad year for the tech world.
I don't care to follow celebrities or anything about them. But those guys, with the exception of Jobs (no disrespect, I just don't care for him) were my celebrities.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Monday January 02 2017, @01:16PM
Dennis Ritchie
I wanted to find a guy who did two separate things of similar level that the press is confusing into one thing. So the Widlar-ian chimera of the current band mirror gap reference could be a thing in journalist land...
were my celebrities.
As a little proto-engineer I used to read Pease's column in that tech industry magazine who's name I long forgot. A collection of those would be the world's weirdest EE textbook. They used to be online at Nat Semi's website, er I think they were.
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Monday January 02 2017, @03:28PM
Electronic Design. I used to get it way back and enjoyed his columns. Called Pease Porridge and always included his tag line: "Whats all this X stuff anyhow?"
An appropriate column: http://electronicdesign.com/analog/what-s-all-widlar-stuff-anyhow [electronicdesign.com]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:27PM
At least link to WaPo [washingtonpost.com] who give more attention to the important details alongside the gender politics.
Unlike The Verge, we are more interested in her contributions to science, rather than the fact she had a vagina.
(Score: 2) by cmn32480 on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:41PM
Keep in mind that during the holiday week, we are trying to schedule out multiple days in advance to afford the editors time off and the ability to enjoy their families.
As of this comment, we are currently scheduling stories for December 30th (UTC). A story on Vera Rubin is slated to go out on December 30 at 1:11am UTC.
If you take a look into the story and submission queues [soylentnews.org], you will see a larger number from Arthur T. Knackerbracket. Arthur is the story scraping RSS bot that we use when the queue gets empty.
Please feel free to toss something in, it'd be a nice help to the editors. We'll even credit you as a first time submitter, if you'd like.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear" - Norm Peterson
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:41AM
You twat! Carrie Fisher was an actress, a writer and a witty, intelligent woman who publicly battled bi-polar disorder and addiction. Despite all her problems, she was forthright, unapologetic and held in the highest regard by the public and (seemingly) everyone that knew her. The circumstances of her passing were both unexpected and sad. She was and remains a cultural icon and this is the of many first celebrity deaths this year that brought tears to my eyes.
Carrie Fisher was a public personality, we grew up with her and most of us liked her. Vera Rubin??? I have no idea who the person behind that name actually is.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:34PM
No, it is not "Breaking News". She and Generalissimo Francisco Franco are still dead. And they'll still be dead tomorrow regardless of whether you tune in for further developments.
(Score: 2) by n1 on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:46PM
I agree... When the story was being edited I made my point -- on SoylentNews IRC -- that this is timely but does not deserve the 'Breaking News' tag... However, others disagreed due to the relevance of Star Wars to the community we have on this site.
I still don't agree and think it's a waste of Breaking News... That said, Castro dying did deserve it as his life and death has had global significance and been a topic in discussion for decades. But to put Fisher in the same context as Castro, the US election, russian ambassador assasination, natural disasters and terrorism is something I personally disagree with wholeheartedly.
(Score: 2) by jdavidb on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:57PM
ⓋⒶ☮✝🕊 Secession is the right of all sentient beings
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27 2016, @10:15PM
There's a difference between getting the story out quickly, and calling it "Breaking News". Breaking News is news that is just breaking. It is where it is not clear where things are headed or how they are developing. Active shooters are breaking news during the active shooting. For at least 24 hours in Turkey you had breaking news during the coup attempt. When somebody dies, that is not breaking news, it is news that broke. In fact, if one is old enough, they'll recognize the Franco joke and put it in context. Franco's death was a long, drawn out affair where certain news outlets (driven by certain news personalities) felt it was important to lead the nightly news with the status of his near-death. "New" news is not "breaking" news, and though the person listening to the news might be hearing it for the first time, in cases like these, the news has broken and is over.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @12:18AM
I disagree that deaths shouldn't be put under breaking news. In fact, these deaths can have active developments, like this one:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cinnabon-deletes-promotional-tweet-carrie-fisher-death-article-1.2925902 [nydailynews.com]
(Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday December 28 2016, @12:36PM
ⓋⒶ☮✝🕊 Secession is the right of all sentient beings
(Score: 2) by deadstick on Tuesday December 27 2016, @11:50PM
The proper meaning of "breaking news" is as dead as that of "literally".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:00AM
The meaning of "breaking news" is literally dead? Like Carrie Fisher?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 27 2016, @09:41PM
Rest in peace, Princess Leia Organa, May the force be with you.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:08AM
She dissed Trump, now is dead
Also, like every woman today: is a feminist.
Thank's Putin. Don't know how he pulled it off but he does not suffer a bitch to live.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @04:05AM
Although I think this role, filmed shortly after the first Star Wars, was probably ripped off from a Looney Tunes cartoon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY4YOsjCI-Q [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @06:55AM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/27/opinions/what-carrie-fisher-george-michael-taught-me-about-sexuality-kohn/index.html [cnn.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @10:07AM
Darn it, now I'll have to cross banging Princess Leia off my bucket list.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @10:34AM
Unless you're reeeeeally kinky.
(Score: 2) by TheReaperD on Wednesday December 28 2016, @11:59PM
Wow, comments like this really make me wish we had "+1 WTF?" and "-1 WTF?!" moderation options.
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 28 2016, @02:03PM
That woman was nitroglycerin ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroglycerin_%28drug%29 [wikipedia.org]