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posted by martyb on Thursday October 26 2017, @05:36PM   Printer-friendly
from the for-the-record dept.

Update: 2,800 documents will be released tonight, others may be released on April 26, 2018.

Update 2: Documents have been released.

Update 3: Check this live feed: JFK files: government releases classified assassination documents – live

John F. Kennedy, often better known as JFK, was the United States of America's 35th President. He was assassinated on November 22, 1963.

The deadline for the release of redacted and withheld records from the JFK Assassination Records Collection is today. Of the approximately 5 million pages in the collection, about 11% are redacted and 1% are withheld in full:

According to the [JFK Assassination Records Collection Act], all [JFK assassination-related] records previously withheld either in part or in full should be released on October 26, 2017, unless authorized for further withholding by the President of the United States. The 2017 date derives directly from the law that states:

Each assassination record shall be publicly disclosed in full, and available in the Collection no later than the date that is 25 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, unless the President certifies, as required by this Act, that –

(i) continued postponement is made necessary by an identifiable harm to military defense, intelligence operations, law enforcement or conduct of foreign relations; and

(ii) the identifiable harm is of such gravity that it outweighs the public interest in disclosure.

The Act was signed by President Bush on October 26, 1992, thus the final release date is October 26, 2017.

Some records related to grand jury information and tax return information will remain withheld, as specified in Sections 10 and 11 of the Collection Act.

Although the current President of the United States could authorize the non-disclosure of any documents in the collection, that action appears unlikely:

Few seem as excited about the release of the final batch of secret documents from the 1963 assassination of John F. Kennedy as the current occupant of the Oval Office. "The long anticipated release of the #JFKFiles will take place tomorrow," President Trump wrote on Twitter on Wednesday. "So interesting!"

Surely, then, it was just a coincidence that Mr. Trump posted that message while on Air Force One heading to, of all places, Dallas. Or was it? Fifty-three years and 11 months after the event that gave rise to a thousand conspiracy theories, the president even landed at Dallas Love Field Airport, where Kennedy's body was brought for the final flight home, and his motorcade came within a few miles of Dealey Plaza, where the fateful shots rang out.

[...] "Of all the presidents since 1963, this is the one who would mind the least if the release of these documents damaged the C.I.A. and the F.B.I., two organizations that he's very angry at at the moment," said Michael Beschloss, a presidential historian.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:06PM (23 children)

    by takyon (881) Subscriber Badge <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:06PM (#587910) Journal

    It seems that they are not out yet [npr.org]. They are taking their sweet time but I would expect it to be out within the next 3 hours.

    There are not expected to be any bombshells, although the CIA is lobbying the President not to release certain documents. But it will at least fuel the conspiracy book writers for a few years.

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    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:16PM (18 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:16PM (#587917)

      Yeah, right.

      Each assassination record shall be publicly disclosed in full, . . . unless authorized for further withholding by the President of the United States.

      That "identifiable harm" part? Let me point out how far things have been stretched. Encryption is a munition. Photographing the police is, uh, something bad. The mis-named Patriot act. NSA snooping. Do you really think that "identifiable harm" can't be stretched to mean almost anything. Think of the children!

      Of course, it may be released. But if it is not, I for one will not be shocked by the withholding. It will merely confirm my cynicism. If it is released, what is in those records then may confirm my cynicism.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:18PM (10 children)

        by takyon (881) Subscriber Badge <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:18PM (#587919) Journal

        You've got it all mixed up. Trump is giddy about the release and probably won't be withholding much of anything back.

        But the real truth wasn't written down and won't be in any of the documents.

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        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:28PM (3 children)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:28PM (#587926)

          Maybe I have it mixed up, as you say. The records are released. So I am left to wonder what is in them that warranted withholding.

          the real truth wasn't written down and won't be in any of the documents.

          If true, I wouldn't be surprised. Not much would surprise me these days.

          Trump is giddy about the release

          Please Explain.

          • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:33PM (2 children)

            by takyon (881) Subscriber Badge <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:33PM (#587927) Journal

            The records are released.

            I see no indication that they have been released yet.

            Please Explain.

            It's in the summary. Here's the paragraph I didn't quote:

            Somehow it feels only appropriate that the remaining papers from one of history’s most infamous mysteries would be made public by the administration of a president who dabbles in conspiracy theories himself. After all, it was Mr. Trump who during last year’s campaign suggested that the father of his Republican rival, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, was somehow involved in the Kennedy assassination. And one of his longtime advisers, Roger J. Stone Jr., wrote a book blaming the killing on Lyndon B. Johnson.

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            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday October 26 2017, @08:11PM

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 26 2017, @08:11PM (#587977)

              I saw it below in another comment and jumped the gun.

            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday October 26 2017, @08:12PM

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 26 2017, @08:12PM (#587979)

              Your explanation makes sense. I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that Ted Cruz father was not involved in the assassination. But I guess we'll find out. If that is true, I will be surprised and wonder how Mr. Trump knew?

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:27PM (2 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:27PM (#587958) Journal

          Trump is giddy about the release and probably won't be withholding much of anything back.

          Well, not on purpose at least. Failing due to incompetence, on the other hand....

        • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:17PM

          by Thexalon (636) on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:17PM (#587996) Homepage

          But the real truth wasn't written down

          Oh yes it was: The aliens keep very thorough records of such things!

          Then there's my favorite explanation: It's Dave Lister's fault [youtube.com]

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        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 27 2017, @04:13PM (1 child)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday October 27 2017, @04:13PM (#588277) Journal

          You've got it all mixed up. Trump is giddy about the release and probably won't be withholding much of anything back.

          Turns out he was lying. Big surprise.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:35PM (5 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:35PM (#587928) Journal
        I think the idea here will be that if there are shenanigans going on, these documents will reveal them indirectly. Would-be investigators aren't looking for signed confessions, buried evidence, or memos explicitly advocating the assassination, but subtler clues, like say, an investigation of certain, relevant figures which ends up dropped without explanation or reference to a piece of evidence which vanishes in the public records. We'll probably see a lot of intriguing false positives just due to the massive amount of materials as a result.
        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:04PM (4 children)

          by Ethanol-fueled (2792) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:04PM (#587994) Homepage

          Please please please papers, pleasy say the Jews did it. Please.

          • (Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Thursday October 26 2017, @10:23PM (2 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 26 2017, @10:23PM (#588025) Journal
            Unless the Jew in question happens to be Meyer Lansky [wikipedia.org], you'll probably be sorely disappointed. JFK had strong support from the Jewish community as a whole, due in large part to his stance on civil rights and maybe his family connections. But one of JFK's principle enemies was the Mafia due, so I understand, both due to Bobby Kennedy's aggressive crackdown on organized crime as the US Attorney General and to JFK's lack of success in reversing the Castro revolution (the Mafia had lost some valuable Cuban property after the Batista regime was overthrown by Castro in 1959). Lansky managed an influential Jewish faction of the Mafia (and as I understand it owned some of those Cuban properties) which would certainly have been capable of managing an assassination attempt of the US President. So he would have had some degree of motive. OTOH, he had a long track record of not making enemies or calling attention to himself. The assassination of a US president would be very high profile and risky.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @12:18AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @12:18AM (#588069)

              Um, khallow? You know you are responding to Eth, do you not? I don't think it was a serious comment, it was Eth, racist anti-semitic Eth. Don't do this, khallow. You are making SoylentNews look bad.

              • (Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Friday October 27 2017, @03:54AM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 27 2017, @03:54AM (#588116) Journal

                You know you are responding to Eth, do you not? I don't think it was a serious comment, it was Eth, racist anti-semitic Eth.

                I sure do. I occasionally subscribe to the MDC school of calling a troll's bluff.

                You are making SoylentNews look bad.

                What exactly did I do? Reply to E-F as if he were serious? And why should that make SN look bad?

                Let us keep in mind that just like most other large groupings of people, Jews do contain a few people of extraordinary wickedness or ruthlessness. And the JFK assassination has these very fishy elements to it just because the assassin was killed before he could state his piece.

          • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Friday October 27 2017, @04:25AM

            by jmorris (4844) Subscriber Badge <jmorrisNO@SPAMbeau.org> on Friday October 27 2017, @04:25AM (#588121)

            You may get your wish. Of course it is far too early for context or anything like that... Just something somebody noticed and posted.

            Image [windows.net]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @08:06PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @08:06PM (#587975)

        > That "identifiable harm" part
        it tells it was inside job or incompetence in preventing an outside job. I guess all people and procedures published do not present harmful info.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Muad'Dave on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:19PM (3 children)

      by Muad'Dave (1413) on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:19PM (#587920)

      They're here [archives.gov].

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:24PM (2 children)

        by takyon (881) Subscriber Badge <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:24PM (#587925) Journal

        WRONG. Those are the July 2017 files. Those were there when I checked yesterday.

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        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 27 2017, @02:22AM (1 child)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 27 2017, @02:22AM (#588098) Journal

          First, a disclaimer: I haven't been keeping up with developments. I have just looked, for the first time, to see what there might be to see. I found the same link that Maud'Dave found - https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/2017-release [archives.gov]

          At first glance, it appears that those documents released in July are at that link, as well as documents released in October. The very first document in the list has an October release date -

          1 178-10004-10309 10/26/2017 In Part KISS/SCOW 06/05/1975
          [PDF] NOTES JUNE 1975 SCOWCROFT, BRENT P/K 5 JUNE 75 3 WH SCOWCROFT MEMCONS, HANDWRITTEN Aug/18/2017 Participants: Ford, Kissinger, Scowcroft. Handwritten notes. For typed transcript see ID# 1781000410297. 4

          Would you mind clicking the link again, to confirm that today's release is indeed there? Or, are they pulling some kind of fast one for the uninitiated?

          I will note that Trump has decided to withhold some smaller number of documents for a six month period, so it's not all there.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:08PM (18 children)

    by edIII (791) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:08PM (#587913)

    (i) continued postponement is made necessary by an identifiable harm to military defense, intelligence operations, law enforcement or conduct of foreign relations; and

    Bull-fucking-shit. It's been over 50 years. What harm could the assassination, presumably not from U.S actors, possibly do to our military defense? What does JFK have to do with military defense plans ~50 years later, and why on Earth should this not be disclosed to the American public? Same goes for intelligence operations. Is it going to tip our hand, that we acknowledge after 50 fucking years, that our President was assassinated by X? That's bullshit, and again, if true, should be disclosed to the American public. Maybe not the exact details, but it should be disclosed what kind of terrible danger we are in that does not let us look back at our history 50 years later. Law enforcement is even more fucking ridiculous. Has the FBI been prepping some major takedown of a shady organization for 50 fucking years? If so, what harm have they let the organization do to the public in the meantime?

    Foreign relations may make sense, but that's only if it is North Korea, and little Kimmie just like Orange Anus, gets upset when truth is spoken to power. Every other country has moved the fuck on. Hell, the U.S even gets along with Germany and that is not that much older of an event.

    the identifiable harm is of such gravity that it outweighs the public interest in disclosure.

    The ONLY identifiable harm would be that it riles up the public, makes them face the facts that the 1% terminated a President that didn't tow their line, and it makes the 1% start to have a bad day. That's fucking it, and that IS NOT in the best interest of the public. The best interests of the public is served by releasing the fucking information.

    Fucking hellbound bastards.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by DannyB on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:23PM (2 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:23PM (#587923)

      The ONLY identifiable harm would be that it riles up the public, makes them face the facts that the 1% terminated a President that didn't tow their line, and it makes the 1% start to have a bad day.

      Ah, but that is such a HUGE harm. Of course, they would never brazenly state that as the identifiable harm. They would state that there is a harm to national security in the very act of revealing what the identifiable harm actually is. Would Trump be capable of such a thing? That is left as an exercise for the reader.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @09:26AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @09:26AM (#588171)

        Would Trump be capable of such a thing?

        Capable of riling up the public? I think so.

        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 27 2017, @01:24PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 27 2017, @01:24PM (#588206)

          I meant would Trump be capable of asserting the fiction that the records cannot be released because of (omg!) . . .
          [x] National Security
          [_] Think Of The Children
          [_] Terrorists
          [_] Non White People
          [_] Non Male People
          [_] Non Christian People
          [_] Non Rich People
          [_] Non Fat People
          [_] Hillary's Emails

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:47PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:47PM (#587938)

      Aliens

      • (Score: 2) by edIII on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:50PM (1 child)

        by edIII (791) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:50PM (#587939)

        It's all green text on a monitor, but that hairdo is coming through loud and clear :)

    • (Score: 2, Troll) by bob_super on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:00PM (7 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:00PM (#587945)

      50 years is simply a guarantee that anyone involved in any classified information (not just JFK's) is either very dead or so old they're not worth chasing (unless they've helped kill Jews, obviously).

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:26PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:26PM (#587956)

        Or were the office boy in a place that helped kill Jews.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:35PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:35PM (#587965)

          Assistant to the Associate Sanitation Engineer at Auschwitz.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday October 26 2017, @08:40PM (4 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday October 26 2017, @08:40PM (#587984) Journal

        50 years... (unless they've helped kill Jews, obviously).

        That's a weird non-sequitur. There's no statute of limitations on murder, FYI.

        • (Score: 2, Troll) by bob_super on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:30PM (3 children)

          by bob_super (1357) on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:30PM (#588002)

          There is, typically, in Europe.
          Except for Crimes Against Humanity, like being a carpenter or a dog walker in the general vicinity of a concentration camp.
          Or War crimes, restricting where W and Cheney dare to travel.

          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:41PM (2 children)

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:41PM (#588010) Journal

            I can't imagine any conversation we could possibly be having that would be less about Europe than this one.

            • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday October 26 2017, @10:03PM (1 child)

              by bob_super (1357) on Thursday October 26 2017, @10:03PM (#588019)

              There was a certain logic to the thought, though.
              How many people are still looking for living perpetrators of crimes committed 50 years, let alone over 72 years, ago?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:17PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:17PM (#587950)

      No, identifiable harm may still be possible in some limited cases. Think of a fictionalized account like,

      "Monitoring stations CASPER, FRIENDLY, and AREA51 reported no increased traffic from their monitoring sectors. Station CIGAR, on the South end of the island, reported increased VHF traffic ten minutes after the assassination. Source agent BECHAMEL reported that Mr. Castro ate huevos rancheros that morning and over coffee mentioned......."

      And tomorrow morning some guy nobody remembers today gets a bullet in the brain. And the world learns Area 51 did more than just plane development, which is work they (fictionally) still do today until this is revealed but now the government will spend an extra 200 million dollars moving intelligence work away from there (fictitiously).

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:29PM (2 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:29PM (#587960) Journal

      What does JFK have to do with military defense plans ~50 years later,..,.

      In a shocking new twist it turns out Vietnam was actually a bad idea!

      • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:26PM (1 child)

        by Thexalon (636) on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:26PM (#587998) Homepage

        Also, we still haven't reinstalled the Batista government in Cuba!

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        • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:33PM

          by bob_super (1357) on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:33PM (#588006)

          We'll get to that right after we apologize for the whole Shah mess. Promise!

  • (Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:41PM (1 child)

    by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Thursday October 26 2017, @09:41PM (#588009) Journal

    So... how long before we see meta-conspiracies claiming that some or all of the released documents are faked in order to cover up the truth and / or place blame where it doesn't belong?
    I mean they've had decades to prepare, it wouldn't be impossible to forge some old papers given sufficient motivation and resources.
    How exactly does one confirm the veracity of such old documents anyway?

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday October 26 2017, @10:12PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday October 26 2017, @10:12PM (#588021)

      Why bother with beating that old dead horse, when there are so many great 9/11 conspiracies to play with?
      Did you know that the sister of the 95th floor's janitor had a dream about her dog getting abducted by aliens, just three days before it bit him, preventing him from being at work that Tuesday?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @10:23PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @10:23PM (#588026)

    It was signed by President George Herbert Walker Bush, who had been Director of the CIA, supposedly his first position at the agency. There's been speculation that he was in Dallas on the day of the assassination:

    http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=5420 [lookingglassnews.org]
    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/15447-george-h-w-bush-on-22nd-november-1963/ [ipbhost.com]
    https://web.archive.org/web/20170619013421/https://whowhatwhy.org/2013/10/02/bush-and-the-jfk-hit-part-3-where-was-poppy-november-22-1963/ [archive.org]
    https://theamericanchronicle.blogspot.fr/2013/09/was-george-bush-in-dealey-plaza-on.html [blogspot.fr]

    Did he expect to live to age 93?

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @10:37PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @10:37PM (#588030)

      "Ok George, here's the thing. You've got charisma and fame from being an actor, but there is no way you'll win a presidential election. However, if you agree to play by our rules we'll get you there."

      "Sounds good pal, when do we start?"

      "Oh, and we'll be giving you a cocktail of drugs that gives you dementia just to make sure some nosy reporter doesn't pry out our secrets."

      "What??"

      "Haha, that was just a test!" *quietly with a finger to his ear* "I'm sorry, no one briefed me for this goddamn shit show"

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by tangomargarine on Friday October 27 2017, @02:51PM (2 children)

        by tangomargarine (667) on Friday October 27 2017, @02:51PM (#588238)

        You're thinking of Reagan. He was the actor.

        Also, are people aware we're talking about H.W., not W.? His dad?

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        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday October 27 2017, @04:12PM (1 child)

          by takyon (881) Subscriber Badge <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Friday October 27 2017, @04:12PM (#588275) Journal

          2017 - 25 = 1992. Not too hard to figure out which Bush was Prez at the time (I hope).

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          • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday October 27 2017, @07:13PM

            by tangomargarine (667) on Friday October 27 2017, @07:13PM (#588371)

            The A.C. was talking about him being an actor and dementia, so neither Bush fit well.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Friday October 27 2017, @12:43AM

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 27 2017, @12:43AM (#588075) Homepage Journal

    People don’t realize, you know, JFK, if you think about it, when and where? People don’t ask that question, but when and where did he die? And most importantly, how? Was it murder? Why could that one not have been worked out? Had Andrew Jackson been a little later, you wouldn't have had that death. Andrew Jackson was a swashbuckler, a real swashbuckler. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. He was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Kennedys. He said "there's no reason for this."

    Today I released a lot, a lot of documents that may tell us when, where, maybe even how JFK died. Thousands and thousands. They say only Nixon could go to China. And only I could release this AMAZING information! And maybe, probably, my CIA will release some more. They have 18,000 more. Will they release them? If you love our history, our heritage, our culture, stay tuned! 🇺🇸

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday October 27 2017, @01:49AM

    by takyon (881) Subscriber Badge <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Friday October 27 2017, @01:49AM (#588089) Journal
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @02:29AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @02:29AM (#588100)

    docid-32112745 shows that by the end of the Eisenhower administration, the CIA was essentially acting independently of presidential control to cooperate with organized crime and revolutionaries to assassinate Casto and DomRep dictator Trujillo. In Trujillo's case, the presidency heard about the plans days before the execution and ordered them stopped, not in time to prevent the assassination from succeeding.

    One of the plans to assassinate Castro included poisoning his drinks with botulism pills. "Colonel Edwards said that he, himself, checked out the pills on some guinea pigs 'because I wanted to be sure they worked'.". I wonder who they were.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @09:58AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @09:58AM (#588179)

      Historians record that the guinea pigs in question were named Flopsy and Wiggle-nose.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday October 28 2017, @01:02AM

    by takyon (881) Subscriber Badge <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Saturday October 28 2017, @01:02AM (#588489) Journal
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