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posted by takyon on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:05PM   Printer-friendly
from the blame-Snowden dept.

There has been a "security incident" at the entrance to the NSA's headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland:

Several people have been injured and a suspect was taken into custody after a car crashed outside the US National Security Agency's headquarters.

Gunfire rang out after the black SUV approached the facility in Fort Meade, Maryland, without authorisation.

An NSA spokesman said it was unclear if the shots had been fired by law enforcement officers or the suspect, adding that the scene was now secure.

Also at Reuters, CBS, The Hill, and Vice.


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  • (Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:14PM (16 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:14PM (#637675) Journal

    Whew! It's a good thing they got those desperately needed thoughts and prayers out there so quickly!

    • (Score: 2) by Snow on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:20PM (14 children)

      by Snow (1601) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:20PM (#637681) Journal

      Donald doesn't exactly strike me as a prayer person.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:26PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:26PM (#637688) Journal

        Donald doesn't exactly strike me as a prayer person.

        Don't tell the Evangelicals that. They might just continue to support him unequivocally!

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by DannyB on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:13PM (2 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:13PM (#637715) Journal

        Donald doesn't exactly strike me as a prayer person.

        I don't know how you cannot see it.

        Donald Trump exhibits everything you would expect to see in the life of a Christian.
        * humility
        * peace
        * kindness
        * gentleness
        * self-control
        * temperance
        * long suffering
        * forgiveness

        How can you not see it?
        Like the grinch, maybe his hands were 3 sizes too small?

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        • (Score: 3, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday February 15 2018, @12:01AM (1 child)

          by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday February 15 2018, @12:01AM (#637963) Homepage Journal

          Thank you, DannyB, for your very LOYAL support!!

          Not many people know, I believe in God. I think religion is a wonderful thing. I think my religion is a wonderful religion. I am Christian. I'm VERY PROUD of that. I think The Bible is certainly, it is THE book. It is the thing. I was raised a Christian. First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica, Queens is where I went to church. I’m a Protestant, I’m a Presbyterian. And, you know, I’ve had a good relationship with the church over the years. Well, I go as much as I can. Always, always on Christmas. Every Christmas! Always on Easter. Always when there’s a major occasion. And during the Sundays. I’m a Sunday church person. I’ll go when I can. It's a fabulous place to meet women. ✝️

          • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @09:20AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @09:20AM (#638155)

            "[Trump] says his two favorite books are the Bible and The Art Of The Deal. [He] says one is about a perfect God who teaches humanity the right way to live. And the other is the Bible." -- Bill Maher

      • (Score: 4, Touché) by fustakrakich on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:14PM (6 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:14PM (#637716) Journal

        Much less a thought person!

        I kid! I kid! I'm sure he's full of thoughts...

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        • (Score: 4, Interesting) by takyon on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:18PM (5 children)

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:18PM (#637720) Journal

          The best thoughts [twitter.com]:

          As we come together to celebrate the extraordinary contributions of African-Americans to our nation, our thoughts turn to the heroes of the civil rights movement whose courage and sacrifice have inspired us all.

          I don't see anything about this attack on his Twitter, are we talking about a White House press release or briefing here?

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          • (Score: 4, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:55PM (3 children)

            by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:55PM (#637762) Homepage Journal

            My thoughts and prayers are with all of the victims involved in this mornings shooting at NSA headquarters. I asked Lindsay to send an EMAIL for me. Because the folks at my beautiful NSA always read EMAIL.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Wednesday February 14 2018, @10:00PM (2 children)

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @10:00PM (#637906) Journal

              Because the folks at my beautiful NSA always read EMAIL.

              Really. And what's especially convenient is that you don't even have to address to them

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @06:13PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @06:13PM (#638343)

                l3tte3rs reply:
                "thanks for your email. but next time please tell nancy to ADD a recipient email address in..."

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @06:15PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @06:15PM (#638344)

                  "and click on "send" too" :D

          • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:58PM

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:58PM (#637769) Journal

            FTA: "Our thoughts and prayers are with everyone that has been affected," said a White House spokeswoman, Lindsay Walters.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by LoRdTAW on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:26PM (1 child)

        by LoRdTAW (3755) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:26PM (#637802) Journal

        The irony is he needs it.

        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:42PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:42PM (#637892) Journal

          The reality is he needs it.

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      • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday February 15 2018, @12:38PM

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday February 15 2018, @12:38PM (#638205) Homepage Journal

        I spoke at the #NationalPrayerBreakfast [twitter.com] in Washington. Great religious and political leaders, and many friends, including T.V. producer Mark Burnett of our wonderful 14 season Apprentice triumph, were there. Arnold Schwarzenegger got "swamped" (or destroyed) by comparison to the ratings machine, DJT.

        I promised I will get rid of and totally destroy the Johnson Amendment and allow our representatives of faith to speak freely and without fear of retribution. I will do that. REMEMBER. pic.twitter.com/1cwxs3l0uK [t.co]

    • (Score: 3, Redundant) by SomeGuy on Wednesday February 14 2018, @08:32PM

      by SomeGuy (5632) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @08:32PM (#637854)

      Right, because uttering words in to the air for an imaginary sky being to hear is so productive.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:29PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @05:29PM (#637692)

    It was probably just Eric Snowden returning his security card.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:22PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:22PM (#637724)

      Edward?

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by frojack on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:31PM

        by frojack (1554) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:31PM (#637731) Journal

        Shhhhhh. Don't blow his cover!

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    • (Score: 2, Informative) by tftp on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:31PM (1 child)

      by tftp (806) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:31PM (#637733) Homepage
      Jokes aside, given the facts it well might be that those three passengers are tourists who lost their way in the road maze. As nobody got firearm wounds, it appears that the passengers were unarmed.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @10:08AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @10:08AM (#638167)

        As shots were fired, you seem to be implying that NSA agents are really really poor shots.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:07PM (12 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:07PM (#637713) Journal

    How could NSA not know in advance that this would happen? Isn't that the whole purpose of them vacuuming up every possible scrap of information about US citizens?

    Even without the PATRIOT act, the US government had all the information about 9/11 days before it happened. They just couldn't put it together. So how does it help to drown the intelligence agencies in even more data?

    They want "responsible encryption" (which is truly irresponsible), so they can access anything, anywhere, anytime, without oversight. Yet they can't even make use of the vast amount of data they already are allowed to collect.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:20PM (1 child)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:20PM (#637722) Journal

      People still drive older vehicles that haven't been utterly pwned.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:12PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:12PM (#637883)

        Invisible older vehicles? Driven by people who don't use the internet or telephone?

    • (Score: 2, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:22PM (3 children)

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:22PM (#637795) Homepage Journal

      When you talk about George Bush, I mean, say what you want, the World Trade Center came down during his time. He was President, OK? Blame him, or don't blame him, but he was President. The World Trade Center came down during his reign. Personally, I blame him. I think he wanted it to happen. To give him an excuse to go into Iraq. We spent $7 TRILLION in the Middle East. For what? So Dick Cheney and Halliburton could become very, very rich. His administration was such a DISASTER, it gave us Barack Obama. Many people say George Bush knew the 7-11 attacks were going to happen. And he did nothing to stop them. His guys came to tell him it started. And he did nothing. He was at a school, he sat there and told the children a story about a goat. Not many people remember, if you don't remember look on the Internet. There are "tapes" of it!!

      Believe me, I'm no George Bush. I'm putting America First. I've asked my Defense Department to build a Time Weapon. So when something bad happens, we go back in time. It's like we go back in time. And we change what happened. It's not perfected yet. Which is why we have Doug Jones in the Senate.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:44PM (1 child)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:44PM (#637893) Journal

        Just be sure your time weapon is powered by clean coal. Beautiful clean coal.

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        • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:59PM

          by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:59PM (#637905) Homepage Journal

          That was one of the terrible things about Obama, he promised he would support our coal industry. Support clean coal. So many people voted for him because they hoped he would save our coal industry. Hope and change, right? But when he got into office, he was very strict with our coal power plants, a lot of them closed down because he made it VERY EXPENSIVE for them to stay in business. And he stopped giving out the leases, he put a moratorium on the leases for coal mining. Which I lifted, our mining is coming back, big league!

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @11:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @11:10PM (#637936)

        Damn Osama blew up the 7-11, now where am I supposed to get shitty pizza at 3AM?

    • (Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:31PM

      by pkrasimirov (3358) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:31PM (#637806)

      > Yet they can't even make use of the vast amount of data they already are allowed to collect.
      My hypothesis is they pump up some secret AI with this data to do it for them. The more data they have the stronger the AI will be (is?). And that's why they so confidently say "no person sees your data". They want something like real-world god-cheat for pwning anyone at will. Little do they know about game theory and why such tool is not solving their perceived problem(s). But the downsides of such tool/net/AI remain in full force.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:01PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:01PM (#637874)

      Just watch all modern TV shows that involve police, you always see them instantly getting access to personal devices and private data. Our entertainment media will steadily normalize this concept so that the population just assumes such tech is necessary and good. At least torture isn't getting as much positive treatment anymore, but enough to still make me sad.

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by DannyB on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:48PM (1 child)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:48PM (#637896) Journal

        Years ago, I watched a cable TV program where they always instantly could get all kinds of personal info, bank records, medical records, etc; all instantly!

        And I thought they were the good guys. As the TV series makes them out to be.

        But then in 2013 after Snowden, I suddenly soured on this show, and realized that they are the bad guys not the good guys. There was even an episode when one character abused this kind of power for some personal reason, but it all turned out okay, of course. I tended to give it a pass. But not after Snowden. My reaction after Snowden is that we should not be building the aparatus of a police state -- not because we might or might not trust those currently in power -- but because someday an absolute mad man might be in power. And only a few short years later, here we are!

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @02:59AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @02:59AM (#638043)

          The shit those shows pull is scary authoritarian, and the worst examples they play off as "partner was disturbed by the overreaction / line crossing but continues on because they know they are the good guys."

          The kicker in reality for me was Obama making a joke about droning his daughter's boyfriend. Nobel peace prize for that piece of shit? Wish I hadn't voted for him.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @01:56AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @01:56AM (#638014)

      How could NSA not know in advance that this would happen?

      Because the car's GPS was encrypted. Another example of the dangers of encryption.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @05:14AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @05:14AM (#638087)

      How could NSA not know in advance that this would happen? Isn't that the whole purpose of them vacuuming up every possible scrap of information about US citizens?

      As (our S/N own) realDonaldTrump uses to say: cyber is hard.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:17PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:17PM (#637718)

    Looks like the guards took potshots at a drowsy NSA rank-and-file suit. Good. It means those bureaucratic criminals will be more stressed and thus easier to deal with when enough of We the People have decided they've overstayed their welcome.

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:30PM

      by frojack (1554) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:30PM (#637729) Journal

      "Rank and file suit" in a rental car with New York plates attempting to Enter via an EXIT only road?

      Seems like non suits to me, drowsey or other wise.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:11PM (5 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @07:11PM (#637785)

      It's a lot easier to make someone forget their ethics if they feel threatened.
      Few people enter the TLAs expecting to massively monitor their fellow citizens. You have to convince them that it's the right thing to do.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @08:04PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @08:04PM (#637830)

        So what do they expect to do?

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Wednesday February 14 2018, @08:20PM (2 children)

          by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @08:20PM (#637841)

          [cue orchestral patriotic music in crescendo]

          support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me

          ... and help the US get revenge on those commies/muslim/spy_chinks/terrorists bastards!

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:49PM (1 child)

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:49PM (#637899) Journal

            Now if only they could recognize the 'enemies domestic' part.

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            • (Score: 2) by pipedwho on Wednesday February 14 2018, @11:18PM

              by pipedwho (2032) on Wednesday February 14 2018, @11:18PM (#637941)

              Good point, he forgot to mention the people. Oops, I mean the pedos. Ah bugger it, think of children! We need to protect them from the people! Oops, I mean protect them from the evil pedos!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @10:44PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @10:44PM (#637926)

        It's a lot easier to make someone forget their ethics if they feel threatened.

        Just remind them to read KotakuInAction [reddit.com] daily.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:23PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @06:23PM (#637726)

    Damn these floor mats.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @08:31PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @08:31PM (#637853)

    1. Why is there not a goddamn roundabout to keep people from driving up to this gate where they could be shot?

    2. Why are there not police officers or DHS agents parked before the entrance to pull over vehicles that are not scheduled visitors before they are in a position to be shot?

    3. If we can't trust their competence in regards to 1 and 2, how can we trust them with their job in other aspects of protecting civilian lives?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @02:00AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @02:00AM (#638017)

      Probably because some unthinking bureaucrat felt the signs saying "Exit Only", "Do Not Enter" and "Wrong Way" we're sufficient.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @08:45PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @08:45PM (#637864)

    This attack can be
    1. accident- unlikely
    2. demonstrative- no, because nobody has taken responsibility for it publicly
    3. terrorism- unlikely, because we still have not seen the image of the baddie (altered to make it look whiter than he is)
    4. a very stupid lone wolf
    5. an inside job - Is there some liberty crushing law in the pipeline?

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:05PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:05PM (#637877)

      This is how you a lot of bullshit "fake news" gets started. "This attack can be" uh huh, except that the article itself quotes ""We believe there is no indication that anything more than an isolated incident of what happened here today this morning," said Mr Johnson, stressing that it was not terrorism related"

      So not an attack, the very phrasing creates misconceptions. #1 accident - MOST LIKELY

      Yes I get that you were probably just responding to the headline, but how do you think crappy news gets through the reporter and editor's desks?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:11PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @09:11PM (#637881)

        Your suggesting that shots where fired accidental outside NSA headquarters at the same time as a car crashed.
        This is how you a lot of bullshit "fake news" gets started.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @11:25PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 14 2018, @11:25PM (#637946)

          Say you’re driving your car in an unfamiliar area and some dude starts shooting at you. You crap your pants and probably crash the car in your panic. All because some overly jittery gun toting security guard panicked in fear that 911part2 was in progress.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @09:25AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2018, @09:25AM (#638157)

            "All because some overly jittery gun toting security guard panicked in fear that 911part2 was in progress."

            Goddammit, are you telling me that the prototype flying car crashed before it even lifted off?

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