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posted by martyb on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:09AM   Printer-friendly

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President Trump announced Friday night that the U.S. and its allies had launched attacks on Syria in response to an alleged chemical weapons attack last week by President Bashar Assad's regime.

In televised remarks from the White House, Trump said the attacks were underway, and that Great Britain and France were also taking part.

The president did not provide details, but U.S. warships in the Mediterranean Sea, armed with cruise missiles, were in position to strike. British and French forces were also in place.

[...] The president said the U.S. prepared to sustain effort until the Syrian regime stops using chemical weapons.

[...] In the days leading up to the U.S. attack, Russia had warned that it would defend its troops in Syria. This has raised fears of a possible direct clash of U.S. and Russian forces.

Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/13/601794830/u-s-launches-attacks-on-syria

Also at Bloomberg and The Guardian


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Bobs on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:34AM (18 children)

    by Bobs (1462) on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:34AM (#666744)

    For background on the situation, I recommend the book American Hero [wikipedia.org] or the movie Wag the Dog [wikipedia.org].

    Acting to stop Assad from using Chemical weapons on civilians can be good, but the important part is the follow-up: dropping bombs is easy (and profitable for the contractors), the hard part is improving the situation and avoiding blowback.

    Last time Trump dropped some bombs to "stop chemical weapons" we spent $100 million+ to shut down an airport for a few hours.

    • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:58AM (3 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:58AM (#666758) Homepage

      HAHHAHAHAHA
      Oh man.

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:59AM (2 children)

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:59AM (#666759) Homepage

        Uh shit....NEVERMORE.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @10:19AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @10:19AM (#666860)

          Better if people just knew about the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) and the Eretz Israel project. And for some immediate-term analysis people could do worse than tune into the X22 Report.

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:35PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:35PM (#666935) Journal

            I'll point out that the web face of PNAC has changed pretty drastically since 2002/2003. The goals are more subdued now. The site isn't so 'in your face' as it was. A person might believe that they have matured or something. Well, some people might believe that. What I think is, enough people objected, enough people were repelled, that PNAC realized they needed to cover up their better/baser side.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:13AM (2 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:13AM (#666782)

      >$100 million+ to shut down an airport for a few hours.

      is cheap, compared to the blowback from any military deployment.

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      • (Score: 2) by Bobs on Sunday April 15 2018, @04:13PM (1 child)

        by Bobs (1462) on Sunday April 15 2018, @04:13PM (#667293)

        True.

        But what was accomplished by the attack?

        By a number reports, the attack was so impotent that Assad was emboldened in his use of chemical weapons.

        So the 2017 attack/response by Trump was a net negative.

        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday April 15 2018, @06:16PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday April 15 2018, @06:16PM (#667345)

          But what was accomplished by the attack?

          As released to public knowledge, or full spectrum?

          By a number reports, the attack was so impotent that Assad was emboldened in his use of chemical weapons.

          Which could actually be a strategic move to draw Assad out into making a bigger mistake on the international stage...

          So the 2017 attack/response by Trump was a net negative.

          As so many military interventions are - from some perspectives. From other perspectives the same intervention can be win-win for several parties.

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by TheRaven on Saturday April 14 2018, @10:16AM (3 children)

      by TheRaven (270) on Saturday April 14 2018, @10:16AM (#666859) Journal

      Acting to stop Assad from using Chemical weapons on civilians can be good

      The New Statesman raised an interesting point yesterday: the civil war in Syria is estimated to have killed at least tens of thousands of civilians, probably over a hundred thousand. Why are we willing to intervene when they're killed with chemical weapons but not when they're killed with conventional ones? I suspect most people would consider being shot and bleeding to death on the street not to be much worse than being killed with chlorine, yet apparently we're fine with the former but not the latter.

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    • (Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @11:02AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @11:02AM (#666871)
      What? You really believe Assad used chem weapons on civilians? Let me guess you also believed that Saddam had WMD at the time the UN inspectors didn't find any.

      Saddam has been winning the war. Why would he use chem weapons when he's been doing so well at killing people without those weapons.

      Another chem weapon false flag also happened last year when Trump was already being friendlier with Assad and Assad was having lots of success (with Russia's help) fighting ISIS and the US supported rebels.
      • (Score: 4, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:54PM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:54PM (#666945) Journal

        modded up because I'm not convinced. Hell, people, my own government would be willing to stage a false flag chemical attack, if it advanced their agenda. Who remembers how we convinced the American public that we needed to go into Vietnam? https://www.usni.org/magazines/navalhistory/2008-02/truth-about-tonkin [usni.org]

        By Lieutenant Commander Pat Paterson, U.S. Navy
        Questions about the Gulf of Tonkin incidents have persisted for more than 40 years. But once-classified documents and tapes released in the past several years, combined with previously uncovered facts, make clear that high government officials distorted facts and deceived the American public about events that led to full U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @07:11PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @07:11PM (#666998)

          I am sure there are even older examples in American History as well, not including the conflicts with Native Americans, Mexicans, and other groups with a preexisting stake in regions we found it lucrative to control.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:56PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:56PM (#666995)
        Oops should be Assad has been winning the war, not Saddam.

        But anyway on the subject of Saddam yes he had WMD before, but that's because the USA and the allies "had the receipts" - they helped him get them. But he got rid of them.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17 2018, @02:02AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17 2018, @02:02AM (#667905)

        it's well known to anyone that bothered to follow the details that the chemical weapons found in iraq were sold to iraq by the US. the chemical weapons the US soldiers breathed were US ordinance sold to iraq and blown up likely by the US, likely to cover their asses for selling the shit in the first place. a few thousand soldiers die? big deal, right? we'll just blame it on saddam who was bullied into the damn war when kuwait started stealing their oil underground, btw.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17 2018, @02:05AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17 2018, @02:05AM (#667908)

        some poor dumb slave modded you troll! lmao! thanks modder that was hilarious.

    • (Score: 2) by SpockLogic on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:10PM

      by SpockLogic (2762) on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:10PM (#666952)

      I too thought of "Wag the Dog". Its the perfect opportunity for the the spotlight to be taken off the Mueller investigation into the criminal activities of the Trump crime family.

      I'm not suggesting that the Trump crime family instigated the events in Syria. That would require planning and intelligence on their part, thus assuming facts not in evidence.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by idiot_king on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:34AM (7 children)

    by idiot_king (6587) on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:34AM (#666745)

    I can't remember who said it, but someone once wrote that the US was a train on a track travelling ahead at high speed, and there were two groups of people, one on either side, yelling at it to change course. As if it could, you know, jump off the tracks.
    I'm not sure I want my children to grow up in this country. It's too much.

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Bot on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:38AM

      by Bot (3902) on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:38AM (#666748) Journal

      well, your country is not perfect but it's recently gotten way better than Syria.

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by JustNiz on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:07AM (4 children)

      by JustNiz (1573) on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:07AM (#666779)

      Where would you go? look around you....

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @12:31PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @12:31PM (#666896)

        Canada does look better by most measures. One problem is the weather.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:07PM (2 children)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:07PM (#666948) Journal

          Uh, no. Health care. OMG!!!! Socialism!!! Run for the hills!

          /s

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 16 2018, @11:40AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 16 2018, @11:40AM (#667584)

            So West Coast, then?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17 2018, @02:10AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17 2018, @02:10AM (#667911)

            yeah, fuck head. i would like to live somewhere where some otherwise unemployable piece of shit doesn't have the "right" to tell me what to do.

    • (Score: 2) by richtopia on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:00PM

      by richtopia (3160) on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:00PM (#666980) Homepage Journal

      This is why high speed rail is a bad idea! Amtrak is saving the USA by delaying our inevitable death!

  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:37AM (1 child)

    by Bot (3902) on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:37AM (#666746) Journal

    reloaded

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:39AM (17 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:39AM (#666749)

    One friend tends toward conspiracy theory (he's also very well read on history and current events). He figures this is the start of WWIII with nukes. I'm not so convinced, but it's still pretty scary.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:10AM (6 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:10AM (#666762) Homepage Journal

      Nah. If either major power involved was interested in it escalating beyond the area it would but it doesn't serve either Russian or US interests for it to do so. Right now both nations can actually mix it up with each other for political reasons in an area neither gives two shits about without, and this is important, actually having to worry about a real war that they don't want breaking out.

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      • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:27AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:27AM (#666765)

        > If either major power involved was interested in it escalating beyond the area it would but it doesn't serve either Russian or US interests for it to do so.

        Has Trump done anything yet that serves our (USA citizens) interests? You've only succeeded in scaring me further, since our leadership is far from making a rational decision based on just about any interpretation of "our interests".

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:09AM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:09AM (#666780)

          You think this is Trump's decision?

          AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA - IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING! | 6:20 AM - 5 Sep 2013

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        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:33PM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:33PM (#666957) Journal

          He shitcanned TPP. He's brought NAFTA and other trade deals into question. He's brought the mega-corporate takeover of America something of a slowdown, if not a stop. Because he ain't real bright, he's turned around and handed the corporations compensatory gifts. Trump isn't bloodthirsty enough, or he would have destroyed a couple of mega-corps by now.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JustNiz on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:14AM (2 children)

        by JustNiz (1573) on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:14AM (#666783)

        If you want a good conspiracy here's one of my favourites:
        The problem with having high-tech weapons is that you don;t know if they will work until you try them against an equally skilled enemy.
        Countries look for, or even start limited wars just to test their latest weapons every 10 years or so.
        Stopping chemical weapons is just the excuse that the US wants to test their latest weapons against the USSR in a way they (and the world) can exit from.
        Putin at least equally loves the chance to test his weapons in a limited way against the best that the USA has too.

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by RedIsNotGreen on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:56AM

          by RedIsNotGreen (2191) on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:56AM (#666816) Homepage Journal

          I'm pretty sure this is true. I developed the same theory when I was following the conflict in Ukraine, where I am originally from. I noticed news of the U.S. shipping their latest armored vehicles to Ukraine as "aid", as well as providing training, but it was very small numbers, maybe dozens of units.

          The macro-world sometimes looks like a Command & Conquer or Starcraft multi-player game. Of course, that is based on reality itself, but it's sad how much of our macro-existences are about "gain control the resources" and "upgrade weapons" and "maintain dominance over the area and resources".

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17 2018, @02:26AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17 2018, @02:26AM (#667915)

          this is true of the whole apparatus. the army is not going to be very good at war if they sit around playing bingo all day. :) still doesn't make it right. i think there's things they could be doing instead of destabilizing countries. kind of how cops just drive around raping and stealing from largely kiss ass working people instead of going after actual violent criminals. soldiers get the benefit of the doubt from me most of the time, even though it's sad to see them borg'd into the scum of the predatory police/fbi/atf/war machine. fuck government.

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:36AM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:36AM (#666770)

      Hey Lefties... Are you still proud of screaming THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING constantly for 18 months until Trump got pushed until he felt he had to make a special gesture of not being Putin's puppy? How many of you young turks are going to be drafted if we get into a real shooting match with Russia? You just might find yourself in the involuntary employ of "not my president"

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:38AM

        by hemocyanin (186) on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:38AM (#666772) Journal

        Totally agree with the sentiment except replace "lefties" with "democrat". Democrats are neither lefties nor progressives, though they like to play them on TV.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by fyngyrz on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:57AM (6 children)

        by fyngyrz (6567) on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:57AM (#666776) Journal

        There's no one to blame for this other than Trump. He's an adult in a position of power. He makes his own decisions, such as they are. In this, he's acting not very differently than most previous presidents. If you truly want to point a finger, that's your target.

        You'd probably learn something if you explored why almost all presidents tend to do this — meddle in other country's affairs at great taxpayer expense/MIC payout within our borders, and no long term positive results anywhere else — perhaps there's something else going on, eh?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:01AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:01AM (#666777)

          +1 Follow The Money

          Works double plus good with anything connected to Trump.

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by cubancigar11 on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:31AM (1 child)

          by cubancigar11 (330) on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:31AM (#666789) Homepage Journal

          My understanding of all the events up until now since Trump's election has been that deep state is unhappy, and Trump is slowly bowing down to its will. Either way I think he is gonna go, but may be not soon?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @12:39PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @12:39PM (#666898)
            Yeah he was cosying up to Putin in the early days and talking about working with Syria and Russia to fight the ISIS. That was completely not what a puppet of the US deep state would do.

            Clinton was probably a tool of the deep state (look at how happy she was with killing Gaddafi).

            Trump wasn't their guy but it's obvious he wouldn't be that difficult to manipulate or blackmail.
        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:36PM (2 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:36PM (#666958) Journal

          'No Man is an Island'

          No man is an island entire of itself; every man
          is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
          if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
          is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
          well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
          own were; any man's death diminishes me,
          because I am involved in mankind.
          And therefore never send to know for whom
          the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

          Olde English Version
          No man is an Iland, intire of itselfe; every man
          is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine;
          if a Clod bee washed away by the Sea, Europe
          is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as
          well as if a Manor of thy friends or of thine
          owne were; any mans death diminishes me,
          because I am involved in Mankinde;
          And therefore never send to know for whom
          the bell tolls; It tolls for thee.

          MEDITATION XVII
          Devotions upon Emergent Occasions
          John Donne

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by fyngyrz on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:10PM

            by fyngyrz (6567) on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:10PM (#666973) Journal

            'No Man is an Island'

            It seems to me that such a sentiment, in this context, is trite at best.

            We're all islands when it comes to deciding to aggress outside the reach of our legitimate authority. Trump's no better than you or I in this regard; he's just got a lot more power, and lacks the wit to know how to manage it in any way even remotely compatible with the idea of a sovereign nation. He's hardly alone in this, it's a very typical presidential stance, but that doesn't make it better, it makes it worse.

            The US has no authority whatsoever as to what goes on in Syria, or does not go on there. The legitimate responsibility of dealing with what goes on in Syria is entirely Syria's — that of its government and its population.

            Any nation-state's legitimate authority ends at the national borders of that nation-state until/unless someone attacks them or compromises their resources (air/water, that sort of local-but-not-local thing) from outside those borders. When a nation-state makes war outside of those bounds, that nation-state is saying to everyone else, "go ahead, come in our nation-state and blow shit up. That's what we do!" To be very clear about all this, Syria has not attacked our nation.

            If we want national borders to mean anything, we'd be far better off acting like they do mean something.

            For example, do you want England, or Russia, or China, dropping bombs on us because our congress is operating well outside the bounds of our constitution? Or because our cops are killing people at the slightest excuse (or without any excuse)?

            Or are these things our problem to solve?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @09:26PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @09:26PM (#667058)

            'No Man is an Island'

            unless his name is... [youtube.com]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:38AM (#666811)

      I agree. Hope everybody is ready to see what nuclear war looks like.

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by JoeMerchant on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:07AM (11 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:07AM (#666778)

    There are forces more powerful than a single man who control the destiny of the country:

    AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA - IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING! | 6:20 AM - 5 Sep 2013

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    • (Score: 2, Funny) by JustNiz on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:20AM (7 children)

      by JustNiz (1573) on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:20AM (#666784)

      What about the many good things from killing Assad? ITs a safe bet that Trump won't start a fight then leave the job half-done, like Bush Sr. did with the Gulf War.

      • (Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:28AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:28AM (#666786)

        > ITs a safe bet that Trump won't start a fight then leave the job half-done, like Bush Sr. did with the Gulf War.

        Yup, President Bone Spurs would never run away from a fight.

        Oh, wait.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:30AM (1 child)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:30AM (#666787) Journal

        ITs a safe bet that Trump won't start a fight then leave the job half-done, like Bush Sr. did with the Gulf War.

        If you're betting more than half done, I think you could get some action on that bet. It might not turn out as safe a bet as you think, but that's your money.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Saturday April 14 2018, @01:46PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday April 14 2018, @01:46PM (#666923)

          Yep, businessman bankruptcy seems like a president partial to me.

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      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Saturday April 14 2018, @01:44PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday April 14 2018, @01:44PM (#666922)

        Bush Sr.'s handling of GWI was a masterstroke of political statement: we came, we kicked ass, and NOBODY on our side died.

        Armed service death rates during the first Iraq deployment were lower than peacetime (due to the increased discipline, and mostly reduction in deaths from drunk driving...) That was the biggest, baddest shock and awe campaign in the history of the world... PTSD and Gulf-War-Syndrome slowly tarnished the glory, but for the first 5 years or so after that invasion, it looked absolutely brilliant.

        Going after Saddam later was just a sad and thinly veiled oil industry power-play.

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by hendrikboom on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:35PM (2 children)

        by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 14 2018, @02:35PM (#666936) Homepage Journal

        Bush Sr. got the job fully done. The job wasn't to conquer Iraq. It was to liberate Kuwait, which he did.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:40PM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:40PM (#666960) Journal

          That's not quite true. Bush made promises to the Sunni, inciting them to rise up against Saddam. Then, we left them hanging in the wind. A lot of Sunni died because we broke our promises.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17 2018, @02:30AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17 2018, @02:30AM (#667917)

          someone regurgitates hilarious propaganda and some ass clown mods them informative. oh lordy, we're screwed.

    • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:15AM

      by captain normal (2205) on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:15AM (#666823)

      He won't hear you unless you get your message on late night Faux News.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by stretch611 on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:28AM

      by stretch611 (6199) on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:28AM (#666827)

      While I am sure the parent realizes this, some of the people responding appear to miss the origin of this quote.

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/375609403376144384 [twitter.com]

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    • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday April 14 2018, @01:18PM

      by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Saturday April 14 2018, @01:18PM (#666915) Homepage Journal

      If President Obama had crossed his stated Red Line In The Sand, the Syrian disaster would have ended long ago! Animal Assad would have been history! Putin has shown the world what happens when America has weak leaders. Peace Through Strength!

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:26AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:26AM (#666785)

    Assad did use chemical weapons on some civilians, and there is proof. But that proof is classified. Sort of like nuclear weapons in Iraq.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/424086-syria-proof-classified-state-department/ [rt.com]

    These wild animals are getting bolder and bolder. And the world looks on. They have their tv and iphone, so who cares? People were pushed into their current reality of not giving a damn. The perpetrator behind all this injustice is the Jew!!! And look, they openly shoot Palestinians dead on Palestinian land. Some day that Palestinian could be you. Think about it.

    • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:00AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:00AM (#666804)

      Yes. I remember also there were classified evidence for aliens landing in area 51. I have seen many documentaries about it and some scans of declassified and censored secctions documents. It is all scary shit man.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:19AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:19AM (#666824)

        The khazar jewish apartheid illegitimate state of israel has been asking for war for quite some time. Those jews had an orgasm when the bombs landed.

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:07AM

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:07AM (#666807) Journal

    *sigh* I wish this could be as graceful.

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:18AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:18AM (#666809)

    Was this Bolton?

    Was this Trump on a hotline to Putin “hey going to bomb Syria *wink wink*?

    Was this a drop down in threat level via Israel’s acknowledgement (as Iran moves into its backyard in Syria) that yes we really did that decades ago? Get out!?

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:45AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @05:45AM (#666813)

      It's the elites. Whatever they found when they raided his lawyer has Trump by the balls now.

      We're joining TPP/TTIP/TISA, and we're getting World War 3 started, whether or not Trump wants to.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:24AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:24AM (#666826)

        "It's the elites."

        These "elites" are commonly called Jews. And they are not human. They used to worship the phallus in their kingdom of khazaria.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:43PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @06:43PM (#666993)

          You realize that people think you're a lunatic right?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @09:45PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @09:45PM (#667063)

            You do realize you don't know history, right?

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:46PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @04:46PM (#666965)
  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @07:02AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @07:02AM (#666833)

    Despite the rhetoric and theatrics, the US (and Brits and French) took care to avoid the russkies. Russkies will do the same.

    It's the cold war all over again, and it's the civilians of dinky little countries that will pay. Your crime is being born a Syrian.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @07:17AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14 2018, @07:17AM (#666834)

    That drunk fuck was really banned, eh?

  • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Saturday April 14 2018, @01:12PM

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Saturday April 14 2018, @01:12PM (#666912) Homepage Journal

    Thank you to France and the United Kingdom for their wisdom and the power of their fine Military. Could not have had a better result. A perfectly executed strike!!!! So proud of our great Military which will soon be, after the spending of trillions of fully approved dollars, the finest that our Country, or any country, has ever had. There won’t be anything, or anyone, even close!

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:08PM (2 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 14 2018, @03:08PM (#666950) Journal

    This should change the headlines from daily white house firings, and the Russia investigations for at least a couple daze.

    --
    The people who rely on government handouts and refuse to work should be kicked out of congress.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 15 2018, @01:31AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 15 2018, @01:31AM (#667112)

      Operation Desert Stormy. Mission accomplished.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 15 2018, @02:57AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 15 2018, @02:57AM (#667138)

        Ah the operation a naked Trump leads. His cock the tip of the American spear of stormy des(ire)tiny.

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