[Editor's Note: This is how we received it. We are searching for anything else but the claim that Assange is (being) extradited is currently unsubstantiated.]
Assange is extradited to die in the US empire.
Wikileaks now puts EVERYTHING online in return.
https://file.wikileaks.org/file/?fbclid=IwAR2U_Evqah_Qy2wxNY12FMqFC5dAFUcZL5Kl4FIfQuMFMp8ssbM46oHXWMI
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:14PM (15 children)
--nomsg
(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:21PM (13 children)
Some, if not all of it, looks like files they've already leaked.
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by Thexalon on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:56PM (1 child)
Skimming through the archive, I'm not seeing a lot of classified materials or anything like that. The stuff from David Miscavige's cult, for instance, is not protected by law.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday December 22 2021, @03:27PM
(Score: 2) by driverless on Wednesday December 22 2021, @04:22PM (9 children)
And a lot of it is random non-sensitive junk that you'd have to be a hardcore conspiracy-theorist to even recognise - how many people will know what Bilderberg refers to, for example. Of the actual leaked stuff it all seems to be pre-2010, so nothing terribly current for today. It looks more like the contents of a file packrat's hard drive than any big revelation.
(Score: 3, Informative) by HammeredGlass on Wednesday December 22 2021, @09:37PM (8 children)
"Bilderberg"
That is not fringe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday December 23 2021, @12:19AM (7 children)
I know what it refers to, but it's definitely fringe. How many people do you know - who don't wear radioactive anti-5G pendants - believe in this stuff?
(Score: 2) by The Vocal Minority on Thursday December 23 2021, @10:28AM (6 children)
I think it's pretty well established that the Bilderberg Group exists. There seems to be a lot of speculation about, and criticism of them, of varying plausibility. If you are claiming that the group doesn't exist, well - there's reasonable skepticism and then there's just being silly.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday December 23 2021, @10:34AM (5 children)
Of course they exist, they publish summaries of their meetings most years, but it's just an upmarket Foo Camp, nothing sinister or conspiratorial.
In fact given the sorts of people who go to Foo I'd be more worried about that than Bilderberg.
(Score: 2) by HammeredGlass on Thursday December 23 2021, @11:22AM (1 child)
"Foo Camp"
Now that's fringe.
(Score: 3, Informative) by driverless on Thursday December 23 2021, @11:31AM
Definitely! We roleplay scenarios that involve lynching nonconformists, spying on people, informing on your neighbours, the whole nine yards [wikihow.com]. Definitely a sinister group that needs keeping an eye on.
And the cards are marked-up Dora the Explorer cards. Not just sinister and evil but crazy on top of it.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Vocal Minority on Thursday December 23 2021, @11:46AM (2 children)
I have no idea what a "Foo Champ" is but I'm not sure you should be so unconcerned about a meeting of very powerful people with the express intent of furthering the creation of a single world government. Even of they do have the best of intentions, self interest can be a insidious and unconscious motivator. I don't have any information, or strong opinion beyond that - also wasn't aware that meeting summaries were published - a link to these would be interesting if you have one. It did look like you were denying the existence of the group so glad you weren't being that kooky (not that I think that is impossible - maybe I have been hoodwinked by a conspiracy theory myself, and the existence of the Bilderberg Group is just a smokescreen for WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON!).
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday December 23 2021, @01:36PM (1 child)
Looks like their express purpose [bilderbergmeetings.org] is:
(Score: 2) by The Vocal Minority on Friday December 24 2021, @03:25AM
I was going by the following quote from Wikipedia (yes, I know):
In 2001, Denis Healey, a Bilderberg group founder and a steering committee member for 30 years, said, "To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."
So maybe my language was a little strong but the original point still holds.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @06:15PM
If you watch the collateral murder video, there is a segment, maybe 3 seconds long, that I've never seen, or don't remember seeing before. Early in the video, you can see the Reuters jorno peering around the corner of a building. I'm not certain if he's down on one knee, maybe he's just stooped over a little. But he is furtively peering around the corner of the building, looking in the direction of the US troops that this group had engaged with just prior to the Apaches arriving on scene.
Those critical seconds seem to have been edited out of versions I've seen in the past. Otherwise, the video is as I remember it. (alternatively, maybe those seconds weren't edited out, but they are simply cleaner and clearer in this .flv version that I'm looking at.)
So, yeah, these are mostly files that have been released, but it seems there are some differences. Differences such as those couple seconds of video that are subtle, but critical.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:28PM
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:14PM
Frist post-insurance world post?
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(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:16PM (3 children)
Have at it guys!
I suspect that the site will not last very long although they may have alternatives.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @05:24PM (2 children)
That was the whole point of the site, no government can touch it or take it down
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday December 22 2021, @05:32PM (1 child)
Well since that time, the US and other countries have closed down plenty of sites that thought that they were untouchable.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @06:17PM
True. But The Pirate Bay still works, after all these years.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Disagree) by isostatic on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:26PM (15 children)
The UK extradites loads of people to the US, his refusal to go to Sweden on this claim that he'd get extradited was pathetic.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by bradley13 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:51PM (6 children)
Yes, it is clear that Assange screwed up re Sweden. Of course, it has always been clear that the man was missing a couple of marbles. I mean, holing up in the Ecuadorian embassy for years and years was not a rational act - he basically put himself in prison.
That said, the US is being it's usual, dictatorial self. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by pursuing Assange. He is not a US citizen, he was never in the US, he did not himself leak any documents. Trying to prosecute him on the flimsy basis they have invented is...pathetic. Just as the US should have long since pardoned Snowdon, just as they should never have locked Manning up in solitary confinement until he went totally loopy, just like CIA "rendition" is ok, if it happens out-of-sight in other countries, just like Guantanamo should never have existed. At some level in the US government, sheer sociopathic insanity is apparently a prerequisite.
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Wednesday December 22 2021, @03:11PM (2 children)
I agree, he made clear his reasons for trying to avoid US custody at all costs: The treatment of Chelsea (nee Bradley) Manning for doing what Assange had done. That treatment, involving a couple of years of solitary confinement for 23.5 hours a day, without clothing or books or anything except a bed, all before any trial or conviction had occurred, was considered torture by a lot of organizations (e.g. Amnesty International and the UN Human Rights Council) who had looked into it and specialize in that sort of thing. This was also right around the time that Gitmo was operating in full force complete with the war crime of waterboarding, and there was a recently-exposed international system of "black sites" where people the US government didn't like were tortured, and there was zero guarantee that Assange wouldn't end up in there.
There's been a pretty clear reason the whole time why the Powers-That-Be in the USA want Assange in jail for a very long time (or better yet from their point of view, dead). And that reason is that the stuff he published embarrassed them, and they want to create a deterrent for anyone else thinking of doing the same thing.
If Assange had been living in the Middle East, he probably would have been hit with a drone strike a long time ago, and if he'd been not white and in the USA at the time he probably would have been shot and killed in a "tragic accident" or something, but he was a white guy in Europe so they decided they had to try to make going after him look all legitimate-like.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @07:42AM
Look, no surprize, the USA shits it pants and abandons its precious Constitution on a regular basis. And nothing happens. And the patriotism barrage continues at volume 11 and everyone in America forgets and believes in the integrity and honor of the US Military and saving Western civilization.
(Score: 2) by ChrisMaple on Thursday December 23 2021, @05:02PM
Manning is insane. Claiming an ability to commit suicide with clothing, of course clothing was removed.
Some people can't resist the temptation to poke the bear, and act surprised when clawed to death.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @08:15PM
Well, his choices weren't all that great:
1. Small office in the Ecuadorian embassy.
2. Epstein.
3. Guantanamo.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @08:03AM (1 child)
She.
Oh? Tell that to the Jews queers socialists etc who survived WWII Germany that way.
You think his assessment that he'd be killed in transit or in supermax is incorrect, maybe? I think he has the agency to make his own risk assessments, and your armchair quarterbacking will matter only if YOU are ever to be extradited somewhere.
For whatever other foibles and failings he may have, Assange choosing an Ecuadorian embassy over a USA jail ... IDK if you've seen the interiors of embassies and jails, but I'd sure as fuck make the same decision he did.
Yet somehow you are +5 insightful? Boggling.
(Score: 2) by HammeredGlass on Thursday December 23 2021, @11:54AM
"She"
Nope.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by bussdriver on Wednesday December 22 2021, @03:43PM (1 child)
If you paid attention, you would realize Sweden was a sham setup to get him extradited; his mistake was in not immediately fleeing the UK... for the short time period he had before realizing the USA was going to flex it's power and trample rights/laws etc. They at one point even forced the UK into almost breaking international law and forcibly invading an embassy to get him. They already forced an unprecedented Interpol warrant for him; when he was IN SWEDEN they dropped charges and let him go... it wasn't until they could bribe a politician to go after him-- for a "crime" that had been thrown out of their court system previously but still existed on the books (as many laws the courts kill remain on paper; functionally killed since you need courts to recognize them.)
The fact that the USA extradited him just as he said all along proves he was correct the whole time; and the USA did do as the Sweden excuse was coming to an end (Sweden's case has been over a while now.)
Then you have the CIA leak about how they would destroy wikileaks and make an example of him... and basically went according to plan so that leak must have been real or by somebody who knows the playbook.
(Score: 2) by isostatic on Saturday December 25 2021, @08:40AM
Yet here we are with him extradited having never gone to Sweden.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @07:22PM (5 children)
He should have gone to Russia.
The fact that Russia is the place to go to escape U.S. tyranny makes the U.S. look bad.
The fact that Russia, and not the U.K., is the place to go to escape unjust extradition to U.S. tyranny also makes the U.K. look bad.
Russia actually looks good in all this?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @07:34PM (2 children)
Times do change. It's not happening in the near future, but China may one day be freer than the US/UK/Western world.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Informative) by NickM on Thursday December 23 2021, @01:13AM (1 child)
I a master of typographic, grammatical and miscellaneous errors !
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @03:03AM
That was Runaway's point.
(Score: 2) by number11 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @08:54PM
No, Russia doesn't look particularly good in all this. The fact that Russia will probably give you refuge if you've poked Uncle Sam in the eye with a stick (and not the Russian Bear) doesn't make it a great place. Just, sometimes, a better place than SuperMax. If Assange had also been publishing stuff re Russia, they'd have invited him to have a nice cup of tea, or maybe to enjoy the view from a 7th floor balcony.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @02:01PM
More neutrally, Russia and China are the two main powers that resist U.S. influence. If you're going to make an escape from the grasp of the U.S., or set up your illegal piracy web site, you should probably gravitate towards their spheres of influence in Asia.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:32PM
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:40PM
Eh, he'll neck himself because his Global Insemination Tour is finally over and has no more access to women for the rest of his life, not because his calling is to be the CyberMartyr who toppled the Us Government with a single press of a keyboard..
(Score: 4, Interesting) by bradley13 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:45PM (1 child)
I just looked at the documents whose titles mention Switzerland. Sadly, nothing of interest. The child porn investigation - has all the identifying information blacked out. There's a short Excel sheet listing supposed accounts at a Swiss bank, but the amounts are underwhelming, and there's no real proof that the accounts exist - anyone can list stuff in an Excel sheet.
What *is* striking is how ordinary these documents are. Why should they even be considered sensitive, much less classified?
The requirements stating that mobile phone networks and VoIP networks must provide the capability for lawful interception? This should come as a surprise to absolutely no one. Or a brief video showing ordinary military training, and a Swiss politician having a try at shooting a military rifle? He was head of the military (equivalent to SecDef) at one point, probably exactly when this was filmed, so...who cares?
Ah, well, I hope others have more luck finding interesting tidbits.
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by ElizabethGreene on Wednesday December 22 2021, @04:59PM
It's rare that you have smoking gun ready-for-headlines stuff like the "Operational capabilities of PRISM" PowerPoint deck that Mr. Snowden disclosed. The hard part of journalism is digging into data like this and finding the handful of data points that indicate something nefarious. Finding that story is hard; Putting it into a few hundred words that people can understand is the sexy and comparatively easy part.
This data probably also includes things they rejected because the sourcing was of dubious quality. Filtering that will be hard too. There are probably stories in this data, but they've probably already disclosed any big headline grabbers. Now it's time to dig through a field of haystacks for interesting needles.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @03:06PM
I doubt it. Including his side of his dealings with Roger Stone, the Russians, etc.? I'm pretty sure this is EVERYTHING that puts him in the best light and the US in the worst light. That's the way he's always operated.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @03:16PM
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @03:55PM (12 children)
The US is still holding the Jan 6 protestors from *last year* in solitary confinement (no bail) on charges no stronger than trespassing.
Piss off the wrong people, and the law goes right out the window. This is all just an intimidating show of force.
There is no legal basis to go after Assange, though. He committed no crime. He's lucky he didn't get droned.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @04:11PM (11 children)
You mean the attempted insurrection/overthrow of America from Jan. 6?
That was this year, you slobbering dumbfuck. Although if you got your degree at Trump University and your only source of news is Fox, OAN, Breitbart, and Zerohedge, I can understand how you are so unhinged from reality you don't even know what year it is.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @04:49PM (8 children)
" the attempted insurrection/overthrow of America"
If you TRULY believe that, how do you explain why they didn't bring guns?
Really? People were going to OVERTHROW THE US GOVERNMENT WITHOUT GUNS?
What has happened to your MIND?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @04:57PM (4 children)
They had some guns. Not a significant amount of them, and they didn't use them. It wasn't a very effective coup.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Sourcery42 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @05:22PM
Shhh. Do not feed the trolls.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @06:28PM
"not a significant amount"
That pretty much ends the discussion. A couple oddballs with guns in their vehicles does not a coup make. Only a Marxist government obsessed with disarming the people consider the weapons in Washington on Jan 6th to be significant.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @09:21PM (1 child)
Yea, it was like watching the Disney "Minions" trample the capital.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @08:05AM
Ha ha it's a non-issue. We'll try it again when Republicans are voting in their Presidential guy. Perhaps throw in some Muslim
protestorstourists with backpacks. Should be peaceful.(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @07:35PM
Insurrection? Then why are they not being charged with that, but instead with trespassing and interfering with govt business?
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday December 23 2021, @05:22AM (1 child)
People died defending the Capitol. What method was used to kill them is irrelevant.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @08:12AM
Using vaccines was insipid. And inspired. Trump voters are dying 1000 a day.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @07:32PM
In only 9 more days, it will have been last year.
I am just too forward looking for folks like you. :-)
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Captival on Thursday December 23 2021, @02:12AM
Why on earth is this autistic dipshittery at a +5? Because you politically agree with the anonymous sperg doing the flaming?
It happened 350 days ago. If you say "last year" or "a year ago", everyone knows what is meant.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @04:45PM (4 children)
I just want to put this out there.
Any of you all who are not 100% in favor of Assange being FREED, PARDONED, etc.,
have fallen for a tyrant's narrative, and you're like the sheep awaiting slaughter while criticizing the sheep already in the chute. You're beyond pathetic.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @05:30PM (2 children)
Am I crazy or are there no posts before ^ one supportung jailing assange?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @06:17PM (1 child)
Time has worked against him. Much like how people come to idolize a politician or athlete or cinema star, after a while you start to hear about the real person they are, not just the myth or the facade they carefully built. Mel Gibson ranting about the Jews, Eric Clapton ranting about vaccines or blacks, Clint Eastwood babbling to empty chairs, etc. With Assange, with a lot of people, it became clear that it was never about his supposed cause, but it was all about him. Trumpsters are finding out that Trump got vaccinated early and often, and is boosted, and that has taken some of the luster off of his golden toilet seat. Trump has always had a limited shelf life because the more he speaks, the quicker that luster comes off.
(Score: 2) by ChrisMaple on Thursday December 23 2021, @05:13PM
You clearly don't understand the joke inherent in the Eastwood event.
(Score: 2) by legont on Thursday December 23 2021, @07:47PM
Well said. Bravo!
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 4, Informative) by LaminatorX on Wednesday December 22 2021, @05:00PM (2 children)
This "dump" has been available for quite some time. Twitter bots hype up variations on this basic message every few months. It's easy to suspect the Russians trying to stir things up, they're certainly not the only ones who might think it beneficial.
(Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Wednesday December 22 2021, @05:10PM (1 child)
LamX! Welcome back! Assuming that it is the 'real' you :) .
I agree with your assessment. This is also only the top level directory, the subdirectories are empty or 404'ing.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @07:17PM
Where are the insurance file passwords?
I mean if they are releasing everything, then those passwords should be first on the block so everyone who downloaded the insurance files can find out if there is anything worth publshing from them, and if not, so they can finally free up that disk space.
(Score: 2) by Fnord666 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @09:48PM (1 child)
It looks like Assange could be extradited to the US but I was not able to find anything saying that he was actually being extradited yet.
U.S. wins appeal to extradite Wikileaks founder Julian Assange from the UK [cnbc.com]
Julian Assange can be extradited to US to face espionage charges, court rules [theguardian.com]
Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, rules UK High Court [theverge.com]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by choose another one on Thursday December 23 2021, @10:56AM
Maybe worth noting that since those reports he has, apparently, had a stroke. Strongly suspect this will require a further bunch of medical appeals.
Note that depending on exact nature of his stroke, he may not be medically fit-to-fly for months.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @10:46PM
That was not me in those pictures.
I have never waved my hands in that fashion, whether or not I was wearing polka dot boxers on my head - which is another things that I have never done, nor would I ever do. I have not danced the hokey-pokey in the nude, with or without body paint.
It's all fabrication.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @12:19AM (2 children)
Steve Jobs has AIDS?
Is that what he died of? Why hide that, really?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @12:51PM
In the 90's and early 2000's, being gay wasn't considered to be a great and special thing like today.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @02:32PM
Everyone has AIDS [youtube.com]