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posted by n1 on Saturday November 14 2015, @01:00AM   Printer-friendly

France has declared a national state of emergency and has closed its borders after at least 40 people were killed in multiple shootings in Paris.

At least 15 people were killed near the Bataclan arts centre, where up to 60 people are being held hostage. Explosions and gunfire are reported.

Three people were killed in an attack near the Stade de France, with some reports suggesting a suicide blast.

Paris authorities have urged people to stay indoors.

Military personnel are being deployed across Paris.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/13/455943961/violence-reported-in-paris
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/13/world/paris-shooting/index.html

Update #1 [BBC updates]:

Scores of people have been killed in multiple gun and bomb attacks in Paris

At least 100 people are reported to have died inside the Bataclan concert hall in central Paris

Others died in attacks near the Stade de France, where France were playing Germany, and at restaurants

France has declared a national state of emergency and has closed its borders

Paris residents have been asked to stay indoors and military personnel are being deployed across the city

[...] Reuters. quoting an un-named official at Paris City Hall, says the current death toll in Paris is around 140.

Update #2:

According to the Paris prosecutor, of the four assailants who died during the sidge at the Bataclan, three committed suicide by detonating explosive vests. The prosecutor has warned that some of their accomplices may "still be on the loose".

[...] Here is what French president François Hollande told reporters outside the Bataclan concert hall just now: "To all those who have seen these awful things, I want to say we are going to lead a war which will be pitiless. Because when terrorists are capable of committing such atrocities they must be certain that they are facing a determined France, a united France, a France that is together and does not let itself be moved, even if today we express infinite sorrow."


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  • (Score: 1) by tftp on Saturday November 14 2015, @03:10AM

    by tftp (806) on Saturday November 14 2015, @03:10AM (#263010) Homepage

    I'd be glad if a small number of deaths is not enough to scare an entire population into giving up their liberty.

    Usually sacrifices are acceptable if a certain group trades losses within the group for some freedoms that are afforded to the members of the group. Note, however, that in the case of refugees (if those are in any way involved,) citizens of the EU are trading deaths among themselves for freedom of other people to freely come into Europe. Would you like to be killed, so that person A can be free to migrate into country B - where you have no relation to A or B?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 14 2015, @04:29AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 14 2015, @04:29AM (#263052)

    If the people vote and decide to close their borders, then that is up to them. If they oppose their government doing this without their say, then I hope they succeed.

    ~200 deaths is not something to ignore but there are over 66,000,000 people in France and the rights of all those people may be worth more than a couple hundred deaths.

    • (Score: 1) by tftp on Saturday November 14 2015, @04:33AM

      by tftp (806) on Saturday November 14 2015, @04:33AM (#263054) Homepage

      ~200 deaths is not something to ignore but there are over 66,000,000 people in France and the rights of all those people may be worth more than a couple hundred deaths.

      I am still uncertain how the rights of French citizens can be impacted by closing the borders to unvetted foreigners. I know of one right - the right for life - that would even improve.

      • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Saturday November 14 2015, @10:12PM

        by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Saturday November 14 2015, @10:12PM (#263476)

        It's pretty obvious what the government's response to this will be, and don't pretend that it isn't. They will use this as an excuse to ramp up mass surveillance and destroy people's liberties even more.