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posted by takyon on Wednesday January 27 2016, @11:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the i-fought-the-law-and... dept.

Previously: Militia Occupies Federal Building in Oregon After Rancher Arson Convictions

Russia Today reports:

Ammon Bundy, the leader of the armed group occupying a federal wildlife refuge near Burns, Oregon, and four others have been arrested by law enforcement amid gunfire, according to the FBI.

At 4:25 pm on [January 26], the FBI and Oregon State Police "began an enforcement action to bring into custody a number of individuals associated with the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. During that arrest, there were shots fired", the Bureau said in a statement.

The FBI said one person who was "a subject of a federal probable cause arrest is deceased". He said they are not releasing any information on the person "pending identification by the medical examiner's office".

One person suffered non-life threatening injuries and was taken to a local hospital for treatment. He was arrested and is in custody.

The arrested individuals include:
- Ammon Edward Bundy, age 40, of Emmett, Idaho.
- Ryan C. Bundy, age 43, of Bunkerville, Nevada.
- Brian Cavalier, age 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada.
- Shawna Cox, age 59, of Kanab, Utah.
- Ryan Waylen Payne, age 32, of Anaconda, Montana.

CNN, NYT, Washington Post, BBC, OregonLive.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @01:14PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @01:14PM (#295254)

    He's a terrorist; you have no obligation to feel bad for him.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @01:50PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @01:50PM (#295268)

    He can't be a terrorist, he's a white christian who did it because he was inspired by God.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @02:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @02:05PM (#295273)

    He's a terrorist; you have no obligation to feel bad for him.

    No obligation, yes. But in respect for another human soul I am saddened that his life was wasted this way.

    From a religious, spiritual and practical perspective I would rather have him alive.

    The ideal way to deal with an enemy is to turn him into an ally.

    For example, though I am glad Osama Bin Laden is gone, I would much prefer having him around telling his former followers and potential recruits that they and ISIS are pansies and loons.

    When someone is alive there is hope they can learn and get better.

    When they are dead all you have is a corpse, a memory and possibly a martyr.

    But sometimes the only practical option is to kill them.

    Hopefully he won’t act like such an ass his next time around.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2016, @01:20AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2016, @01:20AM (#295695)

      Hopefully he won’t act like such an ass his next time around.

      His "next time around"? He's dead! Are you a believer in reincarnation?

      Besides that, though, I agree with everything else you wrote.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Immerman on Wednesday January 27 2016, @05:50PM

    by Immerman (3985) on Wednesday January 27 2016, @05:50PM (#295431)

    Every terrorist is first and foremost a human being, and as such we should have sympathy not only for their passing, but also for the fact that they lived a life that pushed them into a position that becoming a terrorist seemed like a good idea.

    Now these guys appear to to be wackos with too much time on their hands and an overblown sense of entitlement, but I can still sympathize that they weren't raised better.

  • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Wednesday January 27 2016, @07:19PM

    by hemocyanin (186) on Wednesday January 27 2016, @07:19PM (#295478) Journal

    He's a terrorist

    He's a plain old criminal. Throwing the word terrorist around like that is just perpetuating the bullshit the Feds and mass media sell to expand tyrannical power. To be clear, a terrorist is someone who kills or maims uninvolved bystanders for a political purpose. None of the Bundy group bombed stores or shot up theaters. They were trespassers and ordinary criminals, nothing more.

    Ultimately, what you have here are two groups of uber-dicks: the Feds and the Militia, with good people in the west caught in the middle.