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Previously: Militia Occupies Federal Building in Oregon After Rancher Arson Convictions
Russia Today reports:
Ammon Bundy, the leader of the armed group occupying a federal wildlife refuge near Burns, Oregon, and four others have been arrested by law enforcement amid gunfire, according to the FBI.
At 4:25 pm on [January 26], the FBI and Oregon State Police "began an enforcement action to bring into custody a number of individuals associated with the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. During that arrest, there were shots fired", the Bureau said in a statement.
The FBI said one person who was "a subject of a federal probable cause arrest is deceased". He said they are not releasing any information on the person "pending identification by the medical examiner's office".
One person suffered non-life threatening injuries and was taken to a local hospital for treatment. He was arrested and is in custody.
The arrested individuals include:
- Ammon Edward Bundy, age 40, of Emmett, Idaho.
- Ryan C. Bundy, age 43, of Bunkerville, Nevada.
- Brian Cavalier, age 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada.
- Shawna Cox, age 59, of Kanab, Utah.
- Ryan Waylen Payne, age 32, of Anaconda, Montana.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by curunir_wolf on Wednesday January 27 2016, @03:19PM
They will be on their own faster than they wish they will.
Well, they will probably survive longer than the folks in the East Coast metropolises after the food trucks stop rolling in ...
I am a crackpot
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday January 27 2016, @03:30PM
No kidding. From what I've seen in 20 years living in New York City, that time line is about 24 hours. Every time a snow storm hits (a common occurrence in winter, can we all agree?) New Yorkers freak out and grab everything off the shelves in the Gristedes. City dwellers on the East Coast, even the suburbanites, have many fine qualities, but self-reliance is so not one of them. Biggest bunch of helpless cry-baby pansies, actually.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Thexalon on Wednesday January 27 2016, @03:56PM
Well, actually, most of the big agricultural breadbasket of the US is east of 100W, because that includes most of Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and about half of Texas. Also, it's not like there isn't agriculture at all in the east: over half of Ohio and Kentucky is farmed, for example. Even New York is about 25% cultivated.
But really, the dependency goes in both directions: No farms => no food => no cities. But no cities => no farm equipment => no farms.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by curunir_wolf on Thursday January 28 2016, @12:30AM
Quite true, it's a symbiotic relationship (between urban and all the rural dwellers, in the East too). Unfortunately, many city dwellers don't see it that way, or don't understand what it's like to run the farms that produce the food.
Anyway, that's not really relevant to Western state ranchers. Things are so spread out, there's really no farm equipment used for raising the cattle, just enough land to move around a lot. In fact, most of the fencing was put up by the BLM, in order to carve out the land the ranchers are required to pay grazing fees to use (and at what part of the year).
I am a crackpot
(Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Thursday January 28 2016, @12:58AM
Well, actually, most of the big agricultural breadbasket of the US is east of 100W
If you're referring just to grains (a literal "breadbasket") [slate.com], sure — but the vast majority of fruit, vegetables, and nuts are grown in California [motherjones.com].
(Score: 2) by RedGreen on Wednesday January 27 2016, @05:42PM
"Well, they will probably survive longer than the folks in the East Coast metropolises after the food trucks stop rolling in ... "
Dream on it is easy enough to have the food trucks roll in from a closer distance, you will see how quick all the NIMBYs change their tune when it comes down to a farm next door when they have nothing to eat...
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(Score: 2) by legont on Thursday January 28 2016, @04:17AM
Food is grown, mostly, east of 100 meridian (and east of 100 is only where it could be grown without subsides). Sure, east coast is dead without farmers, but on the other hand where exactly farmers are going to send their food?
My only point was that we don't need that much population on the west half of the country and it would make sense to discourage dwelling over there by say cutting subsides, which is exactly what those guys want. I find the whole thing somewhat amusing.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.