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posted by takyon on Wednesday January 27 2016, @11:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the i-fought-the-law-and... dept.

Previously: Militia Occupies Federal Building in Oregon After Rancher Arson Convictions

Russia Today reports:

Ammon Bundy, the leader of the armed group occupying a federal wildlife refuge near Burns, Oregon, and four others have been arrested by law enforcement amid gunfire, according to the FBI.

At 4:25 pm on [January 26], the FBI and Oregon State Police "began an enforcement action to bring into custody a number of individuals associated with the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. During that arrest, there were shots fired", the Bureau said in a statement.

The FBI said one person who was "a subject of a federal probable cause arrest is deceased". He said they are not releasing any information on the person "pending identification by the medical examiner's office".

One person suffered non-life threatening injuries and was taken to a local hospital for treatment. He was arrested and is in custody.

The arrested individuals include:
- Ammon Edward Bundy, age 40, of Emmett, Idaho.
- Ryan C. Bundy, age 43, of Bunkerville, Nevada.
- Brian Cavalier, age 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada.
- Shawna Cox, age 59, of Kanab, Utah.
- Ryan Waylen Payne, age 32, of Anaconda, Montana.

CNN, NYT, Washington Post, BBC, OregonLive.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by J053 on Wednesday January 27 2016, @07:25PM

    by J053 (3532) <> on Wednesday January 27 2016, @07:25PM (#295484) Homepage

    There's an old cliche: "An armed society is a polite society."

    That's a quote from a fictional character in Heinlein's If This Goes On, and even Heinlein wasn't saying that the society depicted therein was a good one. I wish people would quit saying this.

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  • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Thursday January 28 2016, @01:25AM

    by HiThere (866) on Thursday January 28 2016, @01:25AM (#295697) Journal

    FWIW, I believe that Heinlein first used that line in "Beyond This Horizon", and he *was* saying that that society was a good society.

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    • (Score: 2) by naubol on Thursday January 28 2016, @04:15AM

      by naubol (1918) on Thursday January 28 2016, @04:15AM (#295765)

      If I recall correctly, the story was commissioned for Campbell, who was enamored of an armed society. This post corroborates that line of thinking... []

      Whether or not he believed the idea at the time of writing, in the novel Beyond This Horizon someone almost gets shot over what is a very minor faux pas. Heinlein changed his views on politics many times in his life and also wrote politically conflicting works. I have often believed that he experimented with ideas and his 'voice' did not always represent convicted views.

      Quoting Heinlein is a political rorschach.

    • (Score: 2) by J053 on Thursday January 28 2016, @06:16PM

      by J053 (3532) <> on Thursday January 28 2016, @06:16PM (#296037) Homepage
      You're right - it was Beyond This Horizon - I should have known that, as I re-read it not that long ago. I still didn't get the impression Heinlein was advocating for that kind of a society rather than just using it as a background for the main story.