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posted by takyon on Wednesday January 27 2016, @11:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the i-fought-the-law-and... dept.

Previously: Militia Occupies Federal Building in Oregon After Rancher Arson Convictions

Russia Today reports:

Ammon Bundy, the leader of the armed group occupying a federal wildlife refuge near Burns, Oregon, and four others have been arrested by law enforcement amid gunfire, according to the FBI.

At 4:25 pm on [January 26], the FBI and Oregon State Police "began an enforcement action to bring into custody a number of individuals associated with the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. During that arrest, there were shots fired", the Bureau said in a statement.

The FBI said one person who was "a subject of a federal probable cause arrest is deceased". He said they are not releasing any information on the person "pending identification by the medical examiner's office".

One person suffered non-life threatening injuries and was taken to a local hospital for treatment. He was arrested and is in custody.

The arrested individuals include:
- Ammon Edward Bundy, age 40, of Emmett, Idaho.
- Ryan C. Bundy, age 43, of Bunkerville, Nevada.
- Brian Cavalier, age 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada.
- Shawna Cox, age 59, of Kanab, Utah.
- Ryan Waylen Payne, age 32, of Anaconda, Montana.

CNN, NYT, Washington Post, BBC, OregonLive.

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  • (Score: 2) by Vanderhoth on Wednesday January 27 2016, @08:04PM

    by Vanderhoth (61) on Wednesday January 27 2016, @08:04PM (#295521)

    We're just going to have to disagree on a lot of this. For starters Gawker, and most of their subsidiaries, are gossip sites, not news.

    They don't toe to any corporate line like the rest of the mainstream media does. Sometimes the position they take is stupid, but at least it's a new kind of stupid.

    True, they do what suits them, but in a lot of cases this is actually worse. Because they're not accountable they can spread unsubstantiated gossip and ruin people apologetically. So they can claim it's awful that Jennifer Lawrence's nudes were released in one article and pretend to have a moral high ground stance while passing around Hulk Hogan's sex tape or spreading gossip / outing a gay rival.

    They aren't afraid to do the right thing, even if it pisses off big companies. Kotaku's been blacklisted by a couple game publishers

    The "right thing" in your example using Kotaku is releasing game elements of something that was in development so they could harp on how sexist it was. It was hardly for "the public good", which is the only time journalists whistle blowing is justified, not because they didn't like the outfit or story element of a game that hasn't been released. If I was a game developer the last thing I'd want is to be sharing PR with a gossip site that specializes in making everything a sex/race controversy. You can't force a company to talk to people they KNOW are going to misrepresent them then flush them down the shitter for no other reason than it gets page views.

    It's also really hypocritical of them to whine about being blacklisted, then turn around and blacklist others [].

    After that big hack, they started taking privacy and security seriously. As seen above, they have a "burner account" system that's resistant to even legal-system attacks. For a while they were PGP-signing posts - been a while since I noticed it, might have just moved it somewhere or stopped doing it on trivial posts.

    I've never noticed this, but if true it'd step down to a 9.5 from a 10 for sites I avoid because they're almost all irrelevant opinion pieces that misrepresent everything. Right now they're pretty much the gold standard for me for what to avoid, but you can't help clicking on their links every now and then when people are linking to irrelevant puff pieces to support their personal politics.

    While half of their reporters seem to have been dropped on the head as infants, a lot of them actually know their shit. Whoever it is who writes for Foxtrot Alpha, for instance. Even some of their entertainment writers are good - Doug DeMuro doesn't write about anything important, but he's consistently one of the funniest writers I've read.

    I can't comment on Foxtrot Alpha as I've never read it, but of their official subsidiaries (Cink, Deadspin,, Gizmodo, io9, Jalopnik, Jezebel, Kotaku, Lifehacker) a LOT of people will argue they're all a waste of time.

    I don't mean to be condescending, because I appreciate you taking the time to type out a reasonable response, but the negatives, which you yourself pointed out, out way the occasional good article.

    As an aside, looks like Nick Denton is stepping down as Gawker's chief executive, maybe things will improve?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2016, @04:56AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2016, @04:56AM (#295777)

    The "right thing" in your example using Kotaku is releasing game elements of something that was in development so they could harp on how sexist it was. It was hardly for "the public good"

    Yeah social criticism ... that's hardly for the public good. Its all about making vanderhoth's butt hurt and that's not good.