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A suspected Islamic terrorist opened fire at a gay nightclub in Florida, killing 50 people and wounding another 53 before he was killed by police. While authorities continue to investigate to determine whether this man had ties to ISIS, the terror organization has not been quiet in praising the attack. This comes three days after ISIS announced they would attack somewhere in Florida. Today's attack marks the largest act of terrorism on US soil since 9/11.
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Islamic Terrorist Opens Fire on Florida Nightclub; 50 Killed, 53 Wounded
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @07:23PM
It isn't hard to tell, just look for the muzzle flash. Easy peasy.
(Score: 3, Informative) by number11 on Sunday June 12 2016, @08:13PM
It isn't hard to tell, just look for the muzzle flash. Easy peasy.
Sure. And if you've got a dozen people shooting, you've likely just shot another nightclub patron. So somebody else returns your fire, and now you've got a bar brawl, only with guns instead of bottles.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday June 12 2016, @08:56PM
How about you just shoot the guy yelling "allahu akbar" while shooting at people then? It's a safe bet.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Funny) by TheGratefulNet on Sunday June 12 2016, @10:21PM
yelling "allahu akbar"
well, it COULD be a trap, you know...
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday June 13 2016, @01:11PM
Or a mating call for Tori Spelling.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Sunday June 12 2016, @11:37PM
I doubt many gun owners have the capability of working out which person is shooting to kill - oh, they all are? Hmm. So.. Which one deserves to die?
Apparently, the one yelling something in a foreign language.. Which one is that, in a dark, crowded night club, full of panic, screaming and chaos?
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 13 2016, @01:29AM
If it's light enough for the lone shooter to target people, then it is light enough for people to defend themselves. Or, are you suggesting that because Omar had divine aid, he was enjoying some kind of superhuman powers of vision? Omar is a fucking SUPERHERO now? Batman Omar? Superman Omar? Flash Omar? FFS -
(Score: 3, Touché) by MostCynical on Monday June 13 2016, @02:14AM
Surely he was happy to hit *anyone*, so "aiming" wasn't strictly necessary.
Anyone trying to hit HIM would need alot more light.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 13 2016, @02:23AM
Still preposterous.
Although - I wonder - are you trying to imply that gays don't have lighting in their bars? I've been in a fair number of bars in my lifetime. Bars, nightclubs, pubs, whatever you want to call the local dive, I've seen a fair number. For the most part, they are decently lit. Better lit than the alley out back where the drug deals are made when the bar is closed. Bars do odd things with the lights depending on the ambiance, outside entertainment, special events, or whatever - but the lighting is almost always good enough for me to admire the waitresses asses and cleavage.
Was there a special event at this particular bar, or are you just suggesting that gay bars don't light their interiors? Is everyone so damned fugly that they'll NEVER get laid if people can see them?
Please - clarify yourself here.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by MostCynical on Monday June 13 2016, @02:58AM
Night clubs are Often dim. Indeed, they are (in Australia, YMMV), exempt from ususal lighting standards.
https://www.iesanz.org/_r100/media/system/attrib/file/802/10_understanding_how_to_achieve_good_lighting_solutions_within_the_framework_of_the_building_code_of_australia.pdf [iesanz.org]
There are also, often strobes, revolving lights, changing colours, spot lights.
Identifying the aggressor(s), rather than one or more *responding* shooters in such an environment is likely to be very difficult, with no small risk of hitting the wrong target, or an innocent bystander.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @01:43AM
Not yelling "something", yelling something that almost always precedes islamic terrorist attacks.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 13 2016, @01:27AM
That "allahu akbar" bit just goes over many people's heads. Even after it has been explicity pointed out, they just don't understand what was happening. They don't understand the players, the motivations, nothing. So many people live in their own insular little worlds, engrossed in the iPhones and it's apps, they simply cannot absorb obvious knowledge that is offered to them for free.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @09:19PM
And just shoot the people shooting. Warning: You may get shot if you shoot.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @11:23PM
Yes, indeed. At work several months back we had some training on what to do in an active shooter situation. One of the things I learned is that if the active shooter loses possession of his gun under no circumstances are you to pick it up, even if it is to grab it away from him. If you do, SWAT is very likely to shoot you instead. As in a "shoot first, ask questions later" kind of a way. Everyone reading this should remember this if they ever find themselves in an active shooter situation.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 13 2016, @01:35AM
Every "training program" that I've heard anything about seems to be designed to make idiots of people.
Let's try this: Sumbitch is shooting at you and all your coworkers. He fumbles the gun. He reaches for it, but you grab it instead. SWAT busts in, and shoots you because you have a weapon. How in hell have you lost anything? You took a gamble, you kept the weapon away from the crazy man, you saved a life or two - and you're gonna bitch because you ultimately got shot? THAT WAS THE WHOLE INTENT ALL ALONG - THAT YOU DIE!! It's your choice whether you die like a man, or die like a sheep at slaughter.
I suggest you grab the gun and shoot that sumbitch who intends to shoot you and your coworkers.
At the very fucking least, grab the gun and throw it out the window to deprive the gunman of one of his weapons.
Stand up tall, on both of your feet, and feel like a man, at least once in your life.