A suspected Islamic terrorist opened fire at a gay nightclub in Florida, killing 50 people and wounding another 53 before he was killed by police. While authorities continue to investigate to determine whether this man had ties to ISIS, the terror organization has not been quiet in praising the attack. This comes three days after ISIS announced they would attack somewhere in Florida. Today's attack marks the largest act of terrorism on US soil since 9/11.
takyon: The gunman reportedly called 911 emergency services to pledge allegiance to ISIS. The President will hold a briefing momentarily. Compare this article to the original submission.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @07:35PM
Any kind of gun control will result in... only criminals having guns, while everyone else doesn't. I don't own one myself, don't need one.
(Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday June 12 2016, @09:11PM
You should. Otherwise you're shirking your moral obligation to aid in the defense against a tyrannical government. Which is why we're allowed guns in the first place.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @12:09AM
Oooh, look at me! I don't own a gun and I most likely never will. I'm shirking my "moral obligation"! Look, Buzzard Breath, I've seen you extremist ammosexual types gradually drift from "it is my right to own a gun" to "you should own a gun too, or you are shirking your moral responsibility". It won't work. I will not be shamed into joining your cause. If you want to convince me that gun ownership is a moral imperative then, at the least, you will have to convince me that said gun ownership provides benefits to me and those around me. Right now, you have mostly convinced me that you and ammosexuals like yourself are dangerous fools who need to be disarmed. If you want to convince me then show me the benefits to you and your ammosexuial buddies having a weapon within easy reach. No doubt you will at some point trot out the tired canard "when seconds count, the police are just minutes away"; of course, this conveniently ignores the fact that you and your ammosexual buddies also seem to be only minutes away when seconds count. Frankly, I don't think having you and your ammosexual buddies armed is buying the rest of us much in the way of benefit and is creating many more headaches than it is worth. Just sayin'.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @01:30AM
Blah, blah, and also blah. You can either choose to exercise the power you've been given responsibly, irresponsibly, or you can stick your fingers in your ears and go lalalala. I guess we know which side of the fence you come down on. There is nothing good or right about throwing power away. The only good or right comes from using what you're given to do good.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @03:10AM
Whooosh!!! Frankly, you and your ammosexual buddies have not demonstrated all that much "good" for all the power you have been given. Just sayin'.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @09:43AM
Over six thousand prevented crimes per day credited to private firearm ownership. Less than forty fatal shootings per day. The math is not difficult.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @12:49AM
It took me over 3 decades to "win" my first fight.
I did so by kicking the leader hard enough to injure them.
If I am afraid of maiming somebody, how the heck is a gun going to help?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @01:31AM
I guess you posted aptly, AC.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by number11 on Monday June 13 2016, @01:31AM
you're shirking your moral obligation to aid in the defense against a tyrannical government.
Where were your people when they rammed the "Patriot" act through? When they rounded up the Japanese-Americans? When they attacked Iraq under false pretenses? When Jim Crow was oppressing Blacks? Funny, the gun crowd could often be found cheering the government on.
(I'm a gun owner. I don't have any illusions about the moral values of most gun owners.)
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @01:47AM
Right here, asking "are you fucking insane?!" while you lot were screaming "save me, superman!". We're not here to hold your hands and keep you from throwing your rights away every time you're scared. We're here as a last resort.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Monday June 13 2016, @01:34AM
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @01:45AM
You voted them in. We're here for when it becomes absolutely intolerable. Which it will within the next fifty years, I guarantee.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Monday June 13 2016, @01:52AM
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @02:24AM
Not really. I'll likely have to live through a few more decades of this garbage and never get to see the liberty on the other side. I'm doing all I can though and voting for the worst possible candidate for President every time. Thankfully plenty of people are stupid enough to do the same thinking they're voting correctly. Maybe it'll help speed things up and I'll get to live in a land of freedom again before I die of old age.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Monday June 13 2016, @02:38AM
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @09:45AM
Ya think? I'm pretty sure it's definitely my problem. It's just not currently a bad enough problem to justify another civil war.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Monday June 13 2016, @11:49AM
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @07:33PM
Well if you really want the killing to start now, go ahead and start organizing it. You're going to find it difficult going for a couple more decades at least though. The people are not ready. Yet.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Monday June 13 2016, @08:33PM
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday June 14 2016, @02:05AM
It is what it is. Would you prefer we start the killing now? Because that's why we're allowed guns; to kill people who need a good killing. Personally I believe, like the founders did, that it should be a last resort. If your views differ, that's fine though.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday June 14 2016, @06:22AM
You will never be there for us.
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday June 14 2016, @10:25AM
Never? No. It'll see the light of day within the next fifty years unless things change. I'd rather it happen sooner but that's not up to me.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday June 14 2016, @03:13PM
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @02:31AM
LOL. You and your fetishized "armed resistance," even if you could manage to number in the hundreds of thousands, will be decimated by a few hundred pilots and operators with drones and surgical PGM strikes before you even realize you are the subject of a coordinated attack. These highly trained, indoctrinated soldiers will take you out without hesitation or remorse since you will have been branded traitors and terrorists. This will be followed up with a neat and tidy mainstream media blitz that will convince the vast majority of Americans that the right and moral thing was done.
And, no, the small number of recruits you think you have infiltrated the military with will not be able to stop this or even be aware of these classified operations. You will be done before you even get your chance to be a the hero rebelling against FEDRUL GUBBMINT tyranny, if you even survive. You are only allowed to keep your toys because the feds know that you are nothing more than a impotent joke once push comes to shove.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @10:00AM
Sweety, American gun owners don't number in the hundreds of thousands. We number around a hundred million and we own enough firearms to arm every man, woman, and child within our borders and still have a few left over.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @04:30PM
And yet--not to put too fine a point on this--I don't feel any safer because of this.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @07:24PM
You're not supposed to. You're supposed to feel safer because you own a gun. If you don't, well that makes you pretty well fucked when violent crime eventually comes your way, now doesn't it?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by frojack on Sunday June 12 2016, @09:48PM
Any kind of gun control will result in... only criminals having guns, while everyone else doesn't. I don't own one myself, don't need one.
The first part of your statement was correct. Then you went off the rails.
I've never yet needed one either. But there is a loaded (and secured) one within reach.
Everybody inside that nightclub was unarmed. The lone offduty cop working outside security was the only one that engaged the shooter till swat arrived. And Swat let him have several hours alone inside while he continued to shoot people.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.