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posted by takyon on Sunday June 12 2016, @06:00PM   Printer-friendly

A suspected Islamic terrorist opened fire at a gay nightclub in Florida, killing 50 people and wounding another 53 before he was killed by police. While authorities continue to investigate to determine whether this man had ties to ISIS, the terror organization has not been quiet in praising the attack. This comes three days after ISIS announced they would attack somewhere in Florida. Today's attack marks the largest act of terrorism on US soil since 9/11.

takyon: The gunman reportedly called 911 emergency services to pledge allegiance to ISIS. The President will hold a briefing momentarily. Compare this article to the original submission.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @08:11PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @08:11PM (#358813)

    Here's the unfortunate truth: rapid firing weapons are by far less efficient at killing than explosives. Even if you are effective at limiting access to semiautomatics (doubtful, as criminals intending to do this are by definition not interested in your laws and there are way, way too many already in circulation), there are a stupendous array of methods to make things blow up.

    Are you old enough to remember the Oklahoma City bombing? Timothy McVeigh could not have done that kind of damage to personnel or infrastructure with civilian firearms.

    Now, let's say this guy couldn't get his hands on anything more than a bolt-action .22 rifle. Instead, he makes a bomb - or a few of them. Where would we be instead? Well, the nightclub had ~320 people inside. I'm pretty sure it would have been worse. A lot worse.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @10:35PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @10:35PM (#358929)

    If they were really serious they would bring back the plague bearers.

    If you want to create terror and chaos, no better way than an epidemic, and if you want to kill the most gays, get them sick and make them out as the roving plague of pestilence upon a city/state/country.

    But these guys are a bunch of smallminded chumps, just like the KKK, Al Qaeda, etc.

    We've probably had more deaths from the legislative collateral damage than we have from the physical.

    I think that is telling of what is wrong with our country. If we were the home of the brave we would march proundly on without changing our way of life. But instead we have the past 16 years (18 if you go by columbine.)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @11:57PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @11:57PM (#358967)

      You're not wrong about the effects of plague, etc.

      However, the barrier for entry for explosives is much lower. It's as close as your local hardware, and this isn't going to change meaningfully at all because plants will always need nitrates.

      Understand I'm talking here about the sole actor crazy nutjob who wants to make a mark and leave a perverted legacy behind, complete with manifesto etc. That describes the overwhelming majority of mass shootings which could possibly be reached - in theory - by gun control (putting aside that criminals don't obey laws by definition for the moment). These people don't want to be the shadowy actors behind real terror, nor do they have the support network to try and get some sort of plague weaponized. These are blaze-of-glory types, usually without any social support.