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posted by takyon on Sunday June 12 2016, @06:00PM   Printer-friendly

A suspected Islamic terrorist opened fire at a gay nightclub in Florida, killing 50 people and wounding another 53 before he was killed by police. While authorities continue to investigate to determine whether this man had ties to ISIS, the terror organization has not been quiet in praising the attack. This comes three days after ISIS announced they would attack somewhere in Florida. Today's attack marks the largest act of terrorism on US soil since 9/11.

takyon: The gunman reportedly called 911 emergency services to pledge allegiance to ISIS. The President will hold a briefing momentarily. Compare this article to the original submission.


Original Submission   Late submission by physicsmajor

 
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  • (Score: 5, Touché) by frojack on Monday June 13 2016, @12:53AM

    by frojack (1554) on Monday June 13 2016, @12:53AM (#359004) Journal

    Everything I'm reading so far about this guy screams out that he was a tragedy just waiting to happen.

    And all your regulations never saw it coming. And neither did all the NSA spying and trawling of social media. And neither did the phone taps, the email indexing, the FBI investigations. (Yes he was looked at twice by the FBI).

    But you, YOU spotted it right away, just reading a few late breaking news reports. YOU, all alone spotted this. You're too incompetent to sign into your favorite web site, but by gawd you can spot a terrorist at a hundred yards just looking at a couple CNN pages.

       

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @02:30AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @02:30AM (#359077)

    Problem is...

    1. Nothing he had done prior was actually criminal and provable in court. The FBI would have needed to set up a sting operation, gently goad him into taking action with FBI-supplied fake weapons, and then arrest him. Getting him to take action in a controllable way, but without getting the case thrown out of court, is a delicate balancing act that takes time and doesn't always work.

    2. There are probably several million other people in this country who basically desire to commit a similar act, and the FBI probably knows about a million of them. There is no way that the FBI can trail, stalk, stake out, or otherwise follow every one of those people. This is a long-tail problem, and resources are limited.

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday June 13 2016, @03:44AM

      by frojack (1554) on Monday June 13 2016, @03:44AM (#359114) Journal

      You are partly right, AC.

      But you missed the point where he passed a FBI background check while applying for a Security Clearance.
      They didn't need any probable cause to deny him that clearance, because he already accepted that background check in his job application.
      Anything worrisome that they found in the background check should have tripped alarms.

      This guy passed all the checks, probably it will be found he bought all his guns legally.

      Once again gun control does not work. And neither would banning gun altogether. Ask the Israelis. Stabbing reports are all the rage these days, and they are probably coming to a venue near you.

      I doubt there are "several million" that want to do the same thing. They may number in the thousands, (with idle dreams, and secret desires). Probably no more than a couple hundred with real intent and the courage to do something, who are just waiting for an "excuse". Those are the only ones I expect the FBI to watch.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @04:53AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @04:53AM (#359165)

        Probably no more than a couple hundred with real intent and the courage to do something, who are just waiting for an "excuse". Those are the only ones I expect the FBI to watch.

        If only they weren't indistinguishable from all the others who are just talking shit.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @07:35AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @07:35AM (#359228)

      Long tail problem?
      Then chop off the head. Ban islam and kick all people who follow islam to the middle east. WIRM.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @08:55AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @08:55AM (#359257)

        Head? Nuke Mecca, Jerusalem, the Vatican, Clearwater Florida, and Provo. That ought about cover it, all the centers of infection of Abrahamic Faiths, except for Pike Place Market, but one must think of the fish!

  • (Score: 2) by dak664 on Monday June 13 2016, @04:18PM

    by dak664 (2433) on Monday June 13 2016, @04:18PM (#359409)

    He was looked at twice and underwent surveillance. To me that suggests at least one attempted sting which he was too smart to fall for. And very probably those investigations and stings pissed him off.

    Wonder how much credit the FBI should get for causing this one?