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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @12:10PM   Printer-friendly
from the not-the-people dept.

And the winner of the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, as reported by the major mainstream media outlets is Donald Trump. It has also been reported that Hillary Clinton called President-elect Donald Trump to concede.

Electoral vote count (so far): 279 for Donald Trump, 218 for Hillary Clinton. 270 electoral votes are needed to win.

Popular vote: 57,227,164 votes (48.0%) for Donald Trump, 56,279,305 votes (47.2%) for Hillary Clinton. Update: Now it is closer to 59,085,795 votes (47.5%) for Donald Trump and 59,236,903 votes (47.6%) for Hillary Clinton.

Yell, scream, gnash teeth... but please keep it civil.

Results at CNN, NYT, FiveThirtyEight, Wikipedia.

takyon: Republicans have retained control of the House and Senate.

Here's some market news:

Dow futures plunge nearly 750 points as investors warily eye electoral map
Asian markets plummet on likelihood of Trump victory
Bitcoin price soars as Trump pulls ahead
Opinion: How to profit from a Donald Trump victory

Ballot measure results will be covered in an upcoming story. Some initial results can be found at Ballotpedia and CNN.

[TMB Note: Stop breaking stuff, cmn32480]

 
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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 09 2016, @08:02AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 09 2016, @08:02AM (#424386)

    Some celebrities have been talking about how they will move to Canada or Australia if Trump wins the election. We don't want whiny people that run away when they don't get their way. We don't want quitters. If they try to come here we will build a wall and make you pay for it!

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by maxwell demon on Wednesday November 09 2016, @08:34AM

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @08:34AM (#424415) Journal

    You mean, like those Europeans who decided not to stay in Europe and improve things there, but instead ran away to the "new world"? I guess you're a descendant of those.

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by t-3 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @10:10AM

      by t-3 (4907) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @10:10AM (#424487) Journal

      Pretty hard to improve things when all power derives from who your daddy was... Not to mention that a minority of colonists were political or religious refugees, most came trying to make big money and own land, which was impossible in the old world where nobles had almost everything. Then you can jump into the whole "native blood" thing, my ancestors never (at least not in recorded history) came to the new world... the old world came to us.

      • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday November 09 2016, @02:44PM

        by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @02:44PM (#424633)

        Pretty hard to improve things when all power derives from who your daddy was...

        It's interesting to see that argument marshalled in defense of Donald Trump, whose power derives almost entirely from who his daddy was. I mean, he's not the first, by any means (Exhibit A: George W Bush), but Trump is rich because his dad was able to lend him a few million to get started, and introduced him to all of the political players in New York, and not-infrequently bailed him out, and then when Fred died Donald inherited a fortune that is approximately twice as much as he has now. Had Donald Trump not been born into money and power, he would maybe be running a successful car dealership.

        Hillary Clinton isn't all that much better, since her power was derived almost entirely from who her husband was.

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        • (Score: 2) by t-3 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:20PM

          by t-3 (4907) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:20PM (#424662) Journal

          I was NOT defending Trump. I didn't vote for him, don't expect anything good from him, and the only reason I'm not freaking out right now is because I had resigned myself to getting fucked today when Bernie didn't get the Dem spot. I was responding to the previous poster's comment, no more, no less.

          • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:25PM

            by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:25PM (#424670)

            Fair enough. My point was that the US has a hereditary aristocracy just as assuredly as other countries, even if we aren't actually calling people "Duke" or "Baron" or "Earl".

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @08:16AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @08:16AM (#425033)

              I think his point was most people who came here were not escaping anything. They were coming here to make their fortune. Fast forward to today and that fortune is not as easy to get as most of it has been locked up at this point just as in the rest of the world.

              Read the right conspiracy sites and they all end in the rothchilds :)

      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:39PM

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:39PM (#424684)

        Pretty hard to improve things when all power derives from who your daddy was

        Something I find fascinating about that situation is humanity almost always reverts or overshoots to the mean. We have an entire industry of "infotainment" focusing on spoiled children of rich people dying of drug addiction or wasting away or whatever foolishness. Lottery winners that lose it all in a matter of years. Pro sports athletes who are selling cars five years after retirement because the money is all gone.

        So a dude who takes the usual million bucks and turns it into billions and a presidency is well into the "man bites dog" territory of human oddity.

        Not your average rich dads spoiled punk son, no, not this one.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @11:29AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 09 2016, @11:29AM (#424533) Homepage Journal

      We hanged the royalty, remember? There isn't a single Duke, not a Knight, none of that stupid shit here. No king, no queen, despite the fact that our presidents seem to WISH they could be kings.

      Basically, we left all the dead baggage in Europe.

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      • (Score: 2) by fritsd on Wednesday November 09 2016, @12:26PM

        by fritsd (4586) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @12:26PM (#424560) Journal

        Well, now you have a king. Do you believe Trump will ever step down voluntarily? Do you believe anyone can make him step down?

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @12:50PM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 09 2016, @12:50PM (#424574) Homepage Journal

          We've heard that same stuff about Herr Bush 2, about Clinton, about O'bummer, and now you're predicting the same for Trump.

          The day that a sitting president imposes martial law and/or suspends elections, I WILL head out the door, armed for bear - errrr - feds. Trump will step down when it is time to step down.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 09 2016, @02:25PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 09 2016, @02:25PM (#424619)

            Except this is a guy who said he wouldn't accept the results of the election as legitimate unless he won, and when he had the chance to retract it he doubled down on it. Think about that for a minute. Really think about it. Please look past your tribalism for a minute and actually think about the implications of a statement like that.

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @05:37PM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 09 2016, @05:37PM (#424752) Homepage Journal

              Gore? Bush? Neither of them accepted the results of the election, and it was kicked to the Supreme Court, remember? The fact that I don't accept the results of an election doesn't mean I'm going to overthrow the government.

              And, if in Trump's case, that IS what it meant, well, there are contingency plans for coup attempts.

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by VLM on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:45PM

          by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:45PM (#424689)

          I pulled the SSA.gov actuarial table using google and a 78 year old dude has less than a decade, so he's not likely to outdo FDR, regardless.

          Of course, doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, health in general, maybe longer, maybe.

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:00PM

      by Bot (3902) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:00PM (#424646) Journal

      > like those Europeans who decided not to stay in Europe and improve things there, but instead ran away to the "new world"

      Hey! this is not respectful.

      You forgot they successfully genocided the natives, too. **ducks**

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  • (Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday November 09 2016, @10:42AM

    by q.kontinuum (532) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @10:42AM (#424499) Journal

    Their exodus might be slightly delayed [businessinsider.de]...

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday November 09 2016, @02:26PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @02:26PM (#424620)

    One relevant actual technology point about all of this: the Canadian immigration website was effectively DDOS'd to death last night.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday November 10 2016, @08:34AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 10 2016, @08:34AM (#425038) Journal

    If they try to come here we will build a wall and make you pay for it!

    no need for it, already overpledged [brickingitforcanada.com]

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