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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @12:10PM   Printer-friendly
from the not-the-people dept.

And the winner of the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, as reported by the major mainstream media outlets is Donald Trump. It has also been reported that Hillary Clinton called President-elect Donald Trump to concede.

Electoral vote count (so far): 279 for Donald Trump, 218 for Hillary Clinton. 270 electoral votes are needed to win.

Popular vote: 57,227,164 votes (48.0%) for Donald Trump, 56,279,305 votes (47.2%) for Hillary Clinton. Update: Now it is closer to 59,085,795 votes (47.5%) for Donald Trump and 59,236,903 votes (47.6%) for Hillary Clinton.

Yell, scream, gnash teeth... but please keep it civil.

Results at CNN, NYT, FiveThirtyEight, Wikipedia.

takyon: Republicans have retained control of the House and Senate.

Here's some market news:

Dow futures plunge nearly 750 points as investors warily eye electoral map
Asian markets plummet on likelihood of Trump victory
Bitcoin price soars as Trump pulls ahead
Opinion: How to profit from a Donald Trump victory

Ballot measure results will be covered in an upcoming story. Some initial results can be found at Ballotpedia and CNN.

[TMB Note: Stop breaking stuff, cmn32480]

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday November 09 2016, @08:07AM

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Wednesday November 09 2016, @08:07AM (#424391) Journal []

    2:43 AM

    The Latino Vote Varies By State - Farai Chideya

    To many people’s surprise, Trump won more Latino voters than Romney did in 2012.

    Here’s how the firm Latino Decisions found the Latino vote broke out by state, for Clinton and Trump.

    Arizona — 84-12
    California — 80-16
    Colorado — 81-16
    Florida — 67-31
    Illinois — 86-10
    Nevada — 81-16
    North Carolina — 82-15
    New York — 88-10
    Ohio — 80-17
    Texas — 80-16
    Virginia — 81-15
    Wisconsin — 87-10

    Trump’s margin among Latino voters in Florida, though thinner than it has been for Republican candidates in past races, likely helped him win that critical state.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 09 2016, @08:33AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 09 2016, @08:33AM (#424413)

    A portion of this i believe is the tendency towards identity politics, especially from the left; think all minorities are automatically on their side.

    It's not like Hispanics don't also have concerns about crime coming over from south of the border, and while not supporting a wall, labeling those concerns as racist just misses the point.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by t-3 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @10:14AM

      by t-3 (4907) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @10:14AM (#424491)

      The last time I talked with my grandmother while she was still alive she said "don't hang out to anyone from Mexico, even your cousins, they're all criminals." Well, actually she said a whole bunch in Spanish and my aunt translated but yeah.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:55PM

      by VLM (445) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:55PM (#424696)

      Also known as the "Only FDR, a democrat, would put all the Japanese ancestry Americans in interment camps" argument.

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @11:35AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 09 2016, @11:35AM (#424538) Journal

    People didn't learn that lesson a few years ago in California.

    There, the Latino vote passed the constitutional amendment against gay marriage. But, no one understands what that means. Latinos aren't a liberal people, by nature. Generally speaking, Latinos are much more "tolerant" than liberals - in certain ways. But, they are also much more INTOLERANT than conservatives in this county, in other ways.

    Latinos are different. They aren't the descendants of Europeans who came a-conquering. Mostly, they are predominantly Native Americans, the descendants of the Azteca, who were forced to "accept" the Catholic church. Latinos, or more properly, Mexicans, aren't like us. They have a different view on life.

    Those Latinos are going to vote for the person who more closely represents their ideals. The strumpet from Arkiesaw represents no one's ideals, certainly not Latino ideals.

    ‘Never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals’
    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday November 09 2016, @02:15PM

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Wednesday November 09 2016, @02:15PM (#424610) Journal

      I've long suspected that the Republican party can absorb latino/hispanic and black voters. Moreso than Trump did, certainly. Trump isn't going to cut it just yet, despite any outperformance of Romney. But now we'll likely get to see something else: the President Donald John Trump reelection campaign of 2020. He'll have his chance to convince with actions instead of words.

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      • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Wednesday November 09 2016, @06:30PM

        by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 09 2016, @06:30PM (#424785)
        GW tried to. He actually had a reasonable immigration plan design to basically convert much of the illegal labor into legal labor, but not citizens. It would have taken pressure off the borders and allowed the border patrol to focus on actual bad people coming in and out, allowed the laborers to remain in the US, made sure people were registered and in the system, not abused by employers, and that taxes were paid. It was a good, progressive plan. Bush understood the importance of those voters and their growing influence, and that outside immigration they aligned far better with the right than the left. The far-right crucified him for it. That was when the tea-party voters started exerting their influence on the republican party. I was heavily involved in the republican party at the time at the state level and saw it within our own committees. And it just went down hill from there, across the board. That's when I decided to resign my position and walked away.

        The same thing happened with gay rights. Bush tried to make some small inroads with that group and the party revolted, forcing him to pivot away from it. Again, there were many of us in the party that saw an opportunity there but the base wasn't having any of it. And so here we are. I've been waiting for that swing back from both parties to a more centrist ideology but I'm starting to think it's not going to happen without a 3rd party sprouting up that's somehow, magically viable and can fill that gap. I think we are going to just keep moving farther and farther apart until something breaks.
      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday November 10 2016, @01:01PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday November 10 2016, @01:01PM (#425100) Journal

        Half of my building in Brooklyn is occupied by an extended Latino family of Mexican descent. They are all Republicans; my downstairs neighbor, the second son, ran for State Assembly as the Republican candidate for this district. As surprising as it might be to some, Latinos are not a Democratic monolith.

        Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday November 09 2016, @04:04PM

      by VLM (445) on Wednesday November 09 2016, @04:04PM (#424700)

      Not like there's a "euro" outlook on life, given that in theory we've got status signalling prog true believers, skilled union tradesmen, corrupt crony capitalism city dwellers, rural Utah Mormons with five poly wifes, crazy college SJWs, all theoretically "euro white people".

      It turns into something like the IQ debates where theres no question that the averages vary by race and that there's simultaneously substantial overlap in curve area and more variation inside races than between races. As I currently, possibly inaccurately, statistically understand it.

  • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Wednesday November 09 2016, @06:36PM

    by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 09 2016, @06:36PM (#424790)
    People forget not all Hispanics are the same. The Cuban-American population in Florida is much more Republican than other Hispanic voters. That group is the reason for the outlier in Florida. A lot of people just looked at the overall Hispanic population and assumed they would all vote the same. Big mistake.