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And the winner of the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, as reported by the major mainstream media outlets is Donald Trump. It has also been reported that Hillary Clinton called President-elect Donald Trump to concede.
Electoral vote count (so far): 279 for Donald Trump, 218 for Hillary Clinton. 270 electoral votes are needed to win.
Popular vote: 57,227,164 votes (48.0%) for Donald Trump, 56,279,305 votes (47.2%) for Hillary Clinton. Update: Now it is closer to 59,085,795 votes (47.5%) for Donald Trump and 59,236,903 votes (47.6%) for Hillary Clinton.
Yell, scream, gnash teeth... but please keep it civil.
Results at CNN, NYT, FiveThirtyEight, Wikipedia.
takyon: Republicans have retained control of the House and Senate.
Here's some market news:
Dow futures plunge nearly 750 points as investors warily eye electoral map
Asian markets plummet on likelihood of Trump victory
Bitcoin price soars as Trump pulls ahead
Opinion: How to profit from a Donald Trump victory
Ballot measure results will be covered in an upcoming story. Some initial results can be found at Ballotpedia and CNN.
[TMB Note: Stop breaking stuff, cmn32480]
(Score: 5, Insightful) by t-3 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @10:10AM
Pretty hard to improve things when all power derives from who your daddy was... Not to mention that a minority of colonists were political or religious refugees, most came trying to make big money and own land, which was impossible in the old world where nobles had almost everything. Then you can jump into the whole "native blood" thing, my ancestors never (at least not in recorded history) came to the new world... the old world came to us.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday November 09 2016, @02:44PM
It's interesting to see that argument marshalled in defense of Donald Trump, whose power derives almost entirely from who his daddy was. I mean, he's not the first, by any means (Exhibit A: George W Bush), but Trump is rich because his dad was able to lend him a few million to get started, and introduced him to all of the political players in New York, and not-infrequently bailed him out, and then when Fred died Donald inherited a fortune that is approximately twice as much as he has now. Had Donald Trump not been born into money and power, he would maybe be running a successful car dealership.
Hillary Clinton isn't all that much better, since her power was derived almost entirely from who her husband was.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by t-3 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:20PM
I was NOT defending Trump. I didn't vote for him, don't expect anything good from him, and the only reason I'm not freaking out right now is because I had resigned myself to getting fucked today when Bernie didn't get the Dem spot. I was responding to the previous poster's comment, no more, no less.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:25PM
Fair enough. My point was that the US has a hereditary aristocracy just as assuredly as other countries, even if we aren't actually calling people "Duke" or "Baron" or "Earl".
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @08:16AM
I think his point was most people who came here were not escaping anything. They were coming here to make their fortune. Fast forward to today and that fortune is not as easy to get as most of it has been locked up at this point just as in the rest of the world.
Read the right conspiracy sites and they all end in the rothchilds :)
(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:39PM
Pretty hard to improve things when all power derives from who your daddy was
Something I find fascinating about that situation is humanity almost always reverts or overshoots to the mean. We have an entire industry of "infotainment" focusing on spoiled children of rich people dying of drug addiction or wasting away or whatever foolishness. Lottery winners that lose it all in a matter of years. Pro sports athletes who are selling cars five years after retirement because the money is all gone.
So a dude who takes the usual million bucks and turns it into billions and a presidency is well into the "man bites dog" territory of human oddity.
Not your average rich dads spoiled punk son, no, not this one.