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posted by janrinok on Friday February 03 2017, @11:10AM   Printer-friendly
From BBC Television News:

An attack has occurred this morning when an individual carrying 2 backpacks and possibly weapons approached the Louvre in Paris and was engaged by a soldier who fired 5 shots. The assailant was wounded, as was a soldier during the attack. One report claims that the attacker shouted Islamic slogans during the attack.

1111GMT: A second possible assailant has been arrested. The French Govt have confirmed it is a terrorist attack.

1117GMT: It is confirmed that the first assailant attacked a soldier with a machete before being engaged and wounded.

1215GMT: Latest TV statements. The first assailant attacked a security officer and/or soldier with a machete causing wounds to his arm and face, while shouting "Allahu Akbar". A second soldier then engaged the assailant with rifle fire resulting in the assailant being seriously wounded in the stomach. The first assailant was carrying 2 backpacks but no explosives have been found in them. A search of the area is continuing. A second assailant has been arrested within the last hour a short distance away from the scene of the attack.

The Louvre Museum and the area around it is in lock-down, and the public and local workers are been evacuated from the area. The French Govt are releasing only statements that they can verify and are refusing to speculate any further during media questioning.

takyon: French soldier shoots attacker outside Louvre
Assailant Near Louvre Is Shot by French Soldier
Machete attack on soldier near Louvre was of 'terrorist nature'

 
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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @02:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @02:32PM (#462372)

    He's a terrorist, eh...?
    Back in my day, we called this type of person 'mentally disturbed' and I see no way to change that. Let's look at the fact
    - Thinks he can take on 2 soldiers by himself
    - Thinks he can win a gunfight with a knife
    - Thinks a magical sky wizard wants him to do this and will protect him
    - (speculation) Likely uttered words to himself on a rigid schedule while thinking he's listened to by an imaginary friend

    Yep... sounds pretty mentally disturbed to me...
    Stop calling these people 'terrorists'; they aren't terrorizing anyone.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @03:06PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @03:06PM (#462398)

    Stop calling these people 'terrorists'; they aren't terrorizing anyone.

    Just call them what they are. Muslim immigrants.

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday February 03 2017, @03:32PM

      by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 03 2017, @03:32PM (#462420) Journal

      I don't see any indication that he was an immigrant. That he shouted "Allahu Akbar" is an indication that he probably is Muslim, but even that is not a given — he might just have chosen to do so because it generates the most attention these days.

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      • (Score: 2) by Dunbal on Friday February 03 2017, @05:28PM

        by Dunbal (3515) on Friday February 03 2017, @05:28PM (#462489)

        I don't see any indication that he was an immigrant.

        I don't see any indication that the small bird floating out on the lake going "quack quack quack" is a duck either. It COULD be a hippopotamus.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @05:54PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @05:54PM (#462502)

          Because only immigrants can shout the trigger phrase, Allah Ackbar.

          • (Score: 2) by Dunbal on Friday February 03 2017, @07:03PM

            by Dunbal (3515) on Friday February 03 2017, @07:03PM (#462532)

            How about a tally of say the last 50 times someone started murdering and yelling "Allah ackbar". Take note of how many times they were immigrants and how many not. Let me know if you find any statistical correlation. CUCKOLD.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @09:57PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @09:57PM (#462603)

              I'm sure you would have a point if I counted anybody whose grandparents weren't born on native soil as an immigrant.

              • (Score: 2) by Dunbal on Saturday February 04 2017, @12:09AM

                by Dunbal (3515) on Saturday February 04 2017, @12:09AM (#462674)

                Oh surprise surprise, perpetrator is Abdallah E-H, an Egyptian who came from Dubai a week earlier. It's not racist to tell the truth. There is a serious problem, however, with people who try to hide the facts by alleging racism.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2017, @12:13AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2017, @12:13AM (#462676)

                  Ah, so finally we have an actual immigrant! That's definitely a change. See you next time somebody shouts Allah Ackbar!

                  • (Score: 2) by Dunbal on Saturday February 04 2017, @02:05AM

                    by Dunbal (3515) on Saturday February 04 2017, @02:05AM (#462696)

                    Probably next week.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2017, @02:39AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2017, @02:39AM (#462707)

                  An Egyptian from United Arab Emirates arrives from Dubai and swings a big knife around, wounding one.
                  This is why we need to stop accepting Syrian refugees and other immigrants.
                  ...
                  Wait, what?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @10:27PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @10:27PM (#462622)

          I don't see any indication that the small bird floating out on the lake going "quack quack quack" is a duck either

          But that, Dunbal, is because you are a cowardly racist idiot. Surely you can see the cases are not analogous?

      • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Friday February 03 2017, @11:51PM

        by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 03 2017, @11:51PM (#462670) Journal

        I don't see any indication that he was an immigrant.

        In an update with new information, the NYT [nytimes.com] quotes an unnamed French prosecutor as saying that "the man who attacked soldiers in front of the Louvre Museum is believed to be a 29-year-old Egyptian" who had been "living in the United Arab Emirates."

        So while maybe an immigrant, maybe not, he does not appear to be local, nor a native Frenchman.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2017, @12:59AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2017, @12:59AM (#462683)

        Sky News (Australian News Channel) says [skynews.com.au]

        The suspect has been identified as 29-year-old Abdullah Reda Refaei al-Hamamy, who lives in the United Arab Emirates but is originally from Egypt, according to security sources.
        [...]
        Parisian prosecutor Francois Molins said the suspect had arrived in France on 26 January after acquiring a one-month tourist visa in Dubai.
        [...]
        Two machetes were found at the scene.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @04:46PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @04:46PM (#462471)

      About 99% of the immigrants I've seen on TV are poor, wretched people that are fleeing war zones or persecution. They look like they've been to hell and back. A lot of them are children. Why are you scared of them? If you have compassion, then help them. Sheesh, what's wrong with people these days?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2017, @04:38AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2017, @04:38AM (#462751)

        The media portrayal is distorted. Women and children make photogenic refugees, so they get most of the pictures.
        In reality 90% of the refugees arriving in western Europe are adult males.

        If they really are leaving such a hellish place, makes you wonder what sort of men they are, to leave their families in hell while they escape.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Bot on Friday February 03 2017, @03:20PM

    by Bot (3902) on Friday February 03 2017, @03:20PM (#462410) Journal

    When the guy open fires on a mosque in Quebec he is the official representative of nationalistic right.
    Therefore, when the guy swings machete in France he is the official representative of islam.

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    • (Score: 3, Troll) by DeathMonkey on Friday February 03 2017, @04:36PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday February 03 2017, @04:36PM (#462462) Journal

      When the guy open fires on a mosque in Quebec he is the official representative of nationalistic right.
      Therefore, when the guy swings machete in France he is the official representative of islam.

       
      According to the Whitehouse, when a white nationalist Trump supporter opens fire on a Mosque that's also an official representative of Islam.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @08:19PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @08:19PM (#462575)

      When the guy open fires on a mosque in Quebec he is the official representative of nationalistic right.
      Therefore, when the guy swings machete in France he is the official representative of islam.

      Wow, you are good at playing the victim.
      The two aren't even remotely equal.

      The main difference here is that the nationalistic right has been portraying guys like this as official representatives of Islam for centuries. Its called islamaphobia today, but it used to be called orientalism. Stereotyping others as a threat is the defining principle of nationalism. It isn't just muzzies either - its jews, its japanese, its chinese, its indians (dots and feathers) and of course all the africans your klancestors kidnapped and brought here. Its basically everybody who isn't white.

      The same can not be said of Islam, not even close. Whatever xenophobic strains exist within Islam, they do not define what it means to be muslim.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Friday February 03 2017, @03:23PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday February 03 2017, @03:23PM (#462412) Journal

    Stop calling these people 'terrorists'; they aren't terrorizing anyone.

    Hmm. Your comment led me to a realization. Who's really doing the terrorizing? Is it the guy wielding a blade that injures one guy, or is it the media and government and other parties who spread that terror far and wide for nefarious purposes? When you look at it that way, it's CNN/Fox, our politicians, and lobbyists who are the actual terrorists. They're the ones who use terror to engineer policy changes that direct cash and power into their pockets. If they take actions that inspire more hapless stoolies like these guys to commit materially meaningless crimes, then that quite works for them: A new terrorist attack? Hey, you know what would solve this whole problem is to mandate that every airport buys a Rapiscan naked scanner from my buddy Bob's company...

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @03:49PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @03:49PM (#462443)

      And that is exactly my point...

    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday February 03 2017, @04:46PM

      by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 03 2017, @04:46PM (#462470)

      I think you're attributing too sophisticated a level of thinking here.

      From some ends of the media, it's "I hate Muslims, this clown makes Muslims look bad, report it far and wide." From most other areas of the media, it's "A lot of other outlets are reporting this, we'll look like chumps if we don't, so put it out there." From all of the media, it's "Fear generates pageviews/viewers, so we should be stoking it whenever possible."

      Politicians and lobbyists absolutely exploit this fear to push through changes that allow the lobbyists to keep their clients happy and the politicians to keep their lobbyists happy, but again there's not much more planning involved than "Hey, if we do this thing, I can make a lot of money. Let's go for it!"

      No fancy conspiring needs to happen, because sheer human stupidity and self-interest is more than sufficient to have the same effects without the effort of coordinating and keeping that coordinating secret. Media outlets absolutely do conspire with politicians, but mostly to help the politician against other politicians, not to affect policy, because the media doesn't care about policy about anything other than the media.

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