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posted by takyon on Wednesday June 14 2017, @04:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the no-baseball-jokes dept.

A gunman opened fire at U.S. Congressmen and others who were gathered at a practice this morning for the Congressional Baseball Game. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and at least four others were reportedly injured. The gunman, who has been identified by unnamed sources as James T. Hodgkinson III, was taken to a local hospital where he died from his injuries:

A gunman unleashed a barrage of gunfire Wednesday at a park in Alexandria, Va., as Republican members of Congress held a morning baseball practice, wounding at least five people, including House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (La.).

The suspected gunman is James T. Hodgkinson III, 66, from Illinois, according to multiple law enforcement sources. President Trump announced that the gunman, who was wounded in a shootout with officers, has died at an area hospital.

The wounded also included two Capitol Police officers and a congressional aide, according to one law enforcement official and witness accounts.

Congressman Scalise was shot in the hip and is in stable condition.

Hodgkinson's motive may have already been identified by the media:

A Facebook page belonging to a person with the same name includes pictures of Democratic presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders, and rhetoric against President Trump, including a post that reads: "Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It's Time to Destroy Trump & Co."

Charles Orear, 50, a restaurant manager from St. Louis, said in an interview Wednesday that he became friendly with Hodgkinson during their work together in Iowa on Sanders's campaign. Orear said Hodgkinson was a passionate progressive and showed no signs of violence or malice toward others.

Also at LA Times, Reuters, The Atlantic, The Hill, and CNN.


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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday June 14 2017, @08:56PM (14 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday June 14 2017, @08:56PM (#525662)

    it is clear they Powers that Be are terrified of him because they do not think they can control him.

    If you look at what Trump has actually done, and what guys like Paul Ryan wanted to do and George W Bush did, they aren't all that different. Donald Trump may be the bad boy of the cabal, but he's part of the cabal. When it comes to policy, Donald Trump does what he's told, just like most everybody else in Washington.

    Of course, to understand this, you have to ignore the soap opera drama cooked up by the media that dominates most politics coverage. Look at budgets, policy changes, laws passed, executive orders, and you'll see that Trump is just like any other Republican would have been.

    If the Powers That Be were really terrified of him, the news networks would not have slavishly covered his campaign, and the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton would not have pushed for him to be the Republican nominee behind the scenes.

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  • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by jmorris on Wednesday June 14 2017, @09:17PM (9 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday June 14 2017, @09:17PM (#525671)

    They were sure they could beat Trump. That is why they pushed him to get the Republican nomination. Yea, they really were that dumb. Most people started having a sneaking suspicion Trump wasn't nearly as incompetent as 'everyone' thought around about Convention time, but they kept right on believing a hot mess like HRC could easily beat him right into the first two hours of election night coverage. Aren't you glad people that dumb aren't running everything for a brief moment? Aren't you glad we aren't at war with Russia? That we aren't supporting the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS anymore? And did I not predict electing Trump would bring Republican and Democrats in Congress together in bipartisan opposition and has this not happened? Has this not brought much needed clarity to the extent of the problem we face with the Uniparty? And if unmoved by any of those rational arguments, are you not at least entertained? :)

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday June 14 2017, @09:26PM (7 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday June 14 2017, @09:26PM (#525678) Journal

      Drumpf *is* incompetent. It's just that the Dems 1) were corrupt and infighting and 2) seriously underestimated just how much of a pack of irredeemable degenerates most of the US voting public is. This was an inevitability, a bad idea whose time had come. But the orange shitbag has *no idea* how he got up there or what he's doing and lordy lordy does it show.

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      • (Score: 2, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 15 2017, @12:56AM (6 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 15 2017, @12:56AM (#525785) Journal

        "irredeemable degenerates"

        That's pretty funny coming from 'Zumi.

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday June 15 2017, @07:54AM (5 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday June 15 2017, @07:54AM (#525909) Journal

          Please, you aren't fit to tie my shoes, and that lame attempt to even suggest I'm the same kind of subhuman as you only makes you look worse.

          Not, though, as bad as the fact that you're so unaware of how people see you that you even thought for a moment that would work. Ye gods. You are your own worst enemy, has anyone ever told you that?

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          • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:22PM (4 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:22PM (#526017) Journal

            "same kind of subhuman as you"

            I made no such suggestion.

            "unaware of how people see you"

            So, it's a popularity contest? I'll just let you win. Seriously, I'm not even interested in competing.

            "you aren't fit to tie my shoes"

            More funny stuff. I don't tie shoes. Not since my youngest son learned to tie his own shoes, anyway. Then, he got smart, and stopped tying shoes.
            http://dungarees.net/product_Wolverine_W02429_Raider_MultiShox_Contour_Welt_-986-1.html [dungarees.net]

            So, if you're still tying shoes, you're way behind the curve. Yes, I am unfit to tie your shoes.

            Meanwhile, you are by far the champion degenerate, and way out of my class.

            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday June 15 2017, @04:09PM (3 children)

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday June 15 2017, @04:09PM (#526074) Journal

              See, this is one of those things where the proper response to you isn't a yes or a no; it's "mu" (void, emptiness, "un-ask the question," "not even wrong"). You're so far out to lunch your mind, such as it is, is overdrawing its expense account.

              But keep replying, please; with every post you further prove my point, viz., "Runaway has forgotten the First Rule of Holes, and indeed is such an un-self-aware individual he doesn't even know he's *in* a hole." Uzzard has the same problem. Neither of you know when to lay down and shut up.

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              • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 15 2017, @05:34PM (2 children)

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 15 2017, @05:34PM (#526104) Journal

                Do not go gentle into that good night,
                Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
                Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

                Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
                Because their words had forked no lightning they
                Do not go gentle into that good night.

                Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
                Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
                Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

                Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
                And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
                Do not go gentle into that good night.

                Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
                Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
                Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

                And you, my father, there on the sad height,
                Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
                Do not go gentle into that good night.
                Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

                                      -Dylan Thomas

                • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday June 15 2017, @05:50PM (1 child)

                  by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday June 15 2017, @05:50PM (#526109) Journal

                  Correction: not only do you not know when to shut up, but you run out of material long before you're done making an idiot of yourself. Keep going; the mere fact of your continuing posts is enough to condemn you, content aside :) I dunno what it is about you and Uzzard but you two have an almost Trumpian inability to know when to fold.

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                  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday June 15 2017, @11:59PM

                    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 15 2017, @11:59PM (#526262) Journal

                    And, look at the mirror. You insist that you must "win". But, look back at "Uzzard" and I. You can't win, because neither one of us thinks that you matter. Speaking for myself, I just can't take you very seriously. Actually, not seriously at all. I'll see your Trumpian, and raise you a two Clintonians. Like Hillary, you take yourself far more seriously than the world takes you.

    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:32PM

      by Thexalon (636) on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:32PM (#526028)

      The Democrats being idiots does not mean that Donald Trump or the Republicans aren't idiots. It's entirely possible, and there's substantial evidence for this, that they're all idiots.

      Another reason that I'm reasonably certain Trump is not a real threat to the Powers That Be: He wasn't shot while on the campaign trail, before he had Secret Service protection. Compare that to, say, Bobby Kennedy, who was repeatedly showing a willingness to stand up to the military and end the Vietnam War and just happened to meet Sirhan Sirhan.

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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday June 15 2017, @01:30PM (3 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday June 15 2017, @01:30PM (#525996) Journal

    Trump is a businessman and not a politician. He doesn't understand DC. He understands the vox populi, but not DC. The policies, except for the sensational handful he can do unilaterally, are the same as Bush and Ryan's because he surrounded himself with people cut from the same cloth as Bush and Ryan. His Chief of Staff, his VP, his Sect. of Treasury, etc. They are business-as-usual, they like business-as-usual, and so of course they will conduct business-as-usual. They're gonna keep doing that and let the President run around with his thumbs on Twitter, chasing his ego high, fighting with the media, etc. Suits them fine.

    The only way Trump would get anything different than that is to really shake things up in just a handful of ways. He could sack everybody but characters like Steve Bannon, but that would consume the next two years while he tries to find more people like Steve Bannon. Congress, whose operatives in the administration had just been purged, would fight Trump on confirmations every step of the way. DC would absolutely shut down and everything would fall into civil war. He could call on his base to descend on Washington and rattle the windows and doors of Congress and everyone else who fights him to intimidate them, but there would be an inevitable reaction from forces opposed to him who would do the same and everything would fall into civil war. Or, Trump could start a war with Iran or Syria or North Korea and use that as cover to purge DC and recast it into something more to his liking.

    He doesn't have many more options than that because he's not the head of the Trump party, with loyalists controlling blocks of Congress and statehouses and willing to back him up on policy.

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    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Thexalon on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:05PM (2 children)

      by Thexalon (636) on Thursday June 15 2017, @02:05PM (#526009)

      He understands the vox populi, but not DC.

      Based on his 37% approval ratings, I'd say he does not in fact understand the vox populi. He won because his opponents had even less of an understanding of the vox populi. Apparently, the people who claim to be the smartest political minds in the country need to be told that the message "You will never again hold a decent job, and the people that took your house and your job have had absolutely nothing happen to them for their highway robbery, but don't worry, everything is great!" isn't a winner.

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      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday June 15 2017, @09:21PM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday June 15 2017, @09:21PM (#526211) Journal

        His approval ratings haven't really moved all that much, when you think about it. The same voters who saw him through the primaries and general are still with him, for the most part. If his polls have dipped at all it's because both the Republicans and Democrats in DC have turned on him with equal fervor, whereas during the general the RNC held its fire.

        I've said it before and I'll say it again, the approval ratings for those in DC going after Trump are far lower than 37% (I've seen 47%, but let's go with yours for the sake of argument). Congress is in the single digits and gets excited if they break into the low teens. The press is at something like 24%. Next to that Trump's a frickin' genius.

        I do agree with you whole-heartedly that the people who claim to be the smartest political minds in the country do need to be told a message, which is that their even more awful performance in office (according to approval ratings) and general shenanigans don't cut the mustard anymore. Their failure to answer to the real needs of the American people made Trump possible, and make incidents like yesterday's likely if not inevitable.

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        • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday June 15 2017, @09:35PM

          by Thexalon (636) on Thursday June 15 2017, @09:35PM (#526222)

          I've said it before and I'll say it again, the approval ratings for those in DC going after Trump are far lower than 37% (I've seen 47%, but let's go with yours for the sake of argument).

          Which poll are you looking at for that? I agree Congress in general has a low polling number, but since on average people think their own congresscritter is just dandy, that may not mean as much as you think.

          However, what I do think is extremely important is that not a single political institution in this country has the support of a majority of Americans. Seriously. Not Congress, not the president, not the Supreme Court, not either major political party. That wasn't supposed to be possible in a democracy, and it definitely bodes trouble.

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