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We're a bit late to the party, but for those who haven't seen on the Internet, today is a protest day for Net Neutrality, where sites across the internet are disrupting their normal operations to get the word out and get people to send a message. Ars Technica already has a fairly decent summary of who's doing what, and we stand with them and the rest of the Internet.
Due to real life issues, I was late on getting this together, but for the rest of the day, this article will remain on the top of the page and we will be blacking the theme of the site in protest [Technical issues among others precluded our doing so today --martyb].
If you're a US citizen, and want to get the word out, check Battle for the Net, and get the word out. In addition, there are long discussions going on reddit and other sites throughout the internet
Let's get the word out!
~ NCommander
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @07:20PM (15 children)
Gimme Free Shit Now
We Deserve Free Shit
Free Shit For Free Gimme Gimme
Gimme Free Shit For Free
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @07:22PM
Wow! AJit Pai, posting as AC right here on SolylentNews! We've made it, babies!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @07:30PM (5 children)
yeah, i'm conflicted. i want the gov to die or at least nearly starve to death but i also don't want corps making it impossible for small operators to stay afloat. turn the internet into tv...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @07:37PM (4 children)
Your favorite YouTube celebrities have already turned the internet into TV. The time has arrived for you to declare, "I don't have the internet." Go back to ham radio.
(Score: 2) by tibman on Wednesday July 12 2017, @09:13PM (3 children)
Disagree. If someone wants to start a new "show" then they just turn on their camera and upload the result. That was never possible with tv.
SN won't survive on lurkers alone. Write comments.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @11:51PM (1 child)
Yes it was possible with TV but the potential audience was smaller. Heard of public-access television? Ironically public-access was the model YouTube used in the early days when it was supposed to be a video blogging platform for individuals, literally a You-Tube. Of course YouTube had to go full commercial when it became obvious people were using YouTube as a pirate platform. YouTube had to become exactly like commericial TV in order to survive lawsuits from copyright holders.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Thursday July 13 2017, @12:30AM
The YouTube model is wrong. There needs to be a video platform that has no legal point of registration nor any servers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @05:28PM
If only the world was that simple:
If somebody dislikes what you do they file a bogus DMCA and poof there goes your "show". Also, google does the Content ID bullshit to appease MAFIAA and automagically selects your "show" for removal or splices ads into it, the proceeds of which go to somebody else...
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:26PM
$80/month > Free
(Score: 3, Insightful) by turgid on Wednesday July 12 2017, @08:37PM (2 children)
Some of us unpatriotic pinko-commie socialist liberal types create a little bit of content for free to share with our fellow human being that the world might be a better place.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @10:26PM (1 child)
"Socialist" and "Liberal" are on opposite sides of the dividing line.
A Liberal thinks Capitalism is acceptable and simply wants to redistribute income, via the government, from The Capitalist Class to The Working Class.
A Socialist is an Anti-Capitalist.
He knows that Capitalism is the root problem and wants to eliminate The Capitalist Class, leaving -only- The Working Class.
A Socialist knows (that because The Idle Rich are not able to siphon off profits from within his company) his worker-owned company is able out-compete an operation which has the non-productive Capitalist millstone around its neck.
N.B. Mondragon has been eating the lunch of Capitalist operations since 1956.
Where you are currently saying "Liberal", you need to use the broader term "Progressive".
...or stop calling yourself Socialist.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @04:46AM
Please go at least study political science, or political economics, before confusing people with redefinitions.
"Liberal" means inclined to afford others liberties. It contrasts with "authoritarian", and has nothing whatsoever to do with attitudes to capital as such.
"Socialist" isn't strictly speaking anti-capitalist as such, although that's the closest to a reliable form that it has taken. It does contrast with strong forms of private ownership, so ... close enough for jazz, I guess. By solving resource access problems through committee or social planning (whether centralised or not) as opposed to property, it's effectively an authoritarian system but it's far from the only possible authoritarian system.
"Progressive" actually is orthogonal to "Liberal". Progressives are based around the idea of bringing the lessons of science and technology, of thought and the enlightenment to social organisation. This has had big successes, so it's kind of trendy. Everything from planned sewage and clean water, through universal franchise. Sometimes progressives and liberals are on the same side (the civil rights movement, for instance) while sometimes they are at odds with each other (prohibition was a big progressive move, but very illiberal). "Progressive" contrasts with "reactionary".
As for Mondragon "eating the lunch" of "capitalist operations" I wouldn't go quite so far. It's been doing OK, but it's not exactly leading the pack of european business groups - especially allowing for how diversified it is. As for how it got where it is, it's interesting that its non-owner workforce is growing substantially. Their regionalism is frankly hurting them in terms of rates of expansion. They still have to count their profits in terms of local currency.
But if you think they're all that and a bag of chips, you should start up something equivalent in the US. Eat Microsoft's and Walmart's lunch for a while. Lots of people would surely cheer you on.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12 2017, @11:14PM
Socialist? Sounds more like a conservative or CEO to me. Those fuckers NEVER want to pay for what they use.
"That road was already there. I'm not paying to maintain it so I can drive on it and use it to deliver my goods. Fuck you. Someone else can pay for it."
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 13 2017, @12:45AM (1 child)
As already noted, >$80/month isn't "free". I pay for my internet access. That is, I actually pay hard earned cash for my access.
I did the rough math recently on providing genuine broadband (fiber) access to rural America. I was very much surprised to learn that in much of America, the fiber can pay for itself in less than three months. So, where are all the billions of dollars going that we continue to pay the ISP's? What's that you say? It's all profit, and it's going into board members, CEO's and investors pockets?
It's about time that we did the math again, and understand that we are merely cash cows. And, this whole issue is just a matter of our owners trying to figure out how to get 5 gallons of milk per cow, instead of only 3 gallons.
Now, moo, you bovine fucker!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @03:14AM
Maybe time to try different moo tactics. https://ep01.epimg.net/elpais/imagenes/2017/07/11/opinion/1499775253_877792_1499785678_noticia_normal_recorte1.jpg [epimg.net]
(Caption doesn't apply, just the picture)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 13 2017, @03:22PM
Based on this post alone if I had to wager I'm sure you couldn't survive without government subsidies on fuel, corn, and very likely the welfare check you collect.
I have a strong feeling you're a paid shill and there is almost no way you're not on welfare if you're even in the USA. Among professionals... even at our drunken most wasted I don't ever encounter fellows who act like you.
I do however encounter such sentiments from welfare leech grey collar workers.