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The BBC is reporting that North Korea has fired another missile:
North Korea has fired a missile eastwards from its capital, Pyongyang, towards Japan, media reports say.
Japan said that the missile likely passed over its territory and has warned residents to take shelter, local media report.
South Korea and the US are analysing the details of the launch, the South's military said.
Al Jazeera reports:
The projectile was launched at 6:57am (21:57GMT Thursday) and flew over the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido before falling into the Pacific Ocean - 2,000km east of Cape Erimo, said Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga.
"Japan protests the latest launch in the strongest terms and will take appropriate and timely action at the United Nations and elsewhere, staying in close contact with the United States and South Korea," Suga told reporters.
South Korea's defence ministry said the missile travelled about 3,700km and reached a maximum altitude of 770km - both higher and further than previous tests.
Just more saber rattling? Another step in escalation? What's next?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Sulla on Friday September 15 2017, @01:35AM (5 children)
Why would kim comply when all compliance will get him is a quicker death? He learned the lessons taught to Gadaffi and Sadam.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2) by edIII on Friday September 15 2017, @02:20AM (4 children)
It was not compliance that took Gadaffi out, but his penchant for stuffing broken off broomsticks up people's asses killing them. Sadam was caught and prosecuted by the law. Gadaffi was caught by his people, and no amount of compliance/non-compliance was stopping that broomstick from being shoved up his butthole, and then being shot and torn apart by the crowds.
In fact, I would venture that *early* compliance might have saved Gadaffi. At least there could've been a chance that civilized law would've treated him better.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @03:12AM
No, USA has no allies, only interests (well, any country, but USA is the big gorilla of our times). And compliance means dropping any resistance, being at the mercy of whoever call the shots.
So, for example, you decide to handle petrol by other means than dollars, like Sadam and Gadaffi dared to suggest... you better have something nasty to cover your ass. Russia and China can get away with deals among them, because hell would open otherwise. Small countries without nuclear weapons? Not so much. You are the path for a new pipe, like Syria... you let the pipe pass or something nasty happens to you.
General Sundarji wasn't stupid.
https://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6049569/would-it-be-so-bad-if-iran-gets-the-bomb [vox.com]
The issue is other countries don't constally show off their nuclear for the news, just make sure other governments know.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1993/03/29/on-the-nuclear-edge [newyorker.com]
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @05:34AM (2 children)
Here [youtube.com] is what happened to Gaddafi in Clinton's words.
What you're saying is not really well supported. The historical record in Libya is not ambiguous. This [wikipedia.org] provides a reasonable synopsis while leaving out much of the detail. The people that killed Gaddafi were being armed, trained, and assisted by foreign nations. And in a couple of decades when it's declassified you can rest assured were also directly providing and instigating said people via the CIA. The whole thing would be like if e.g. China decided to start arming, training, and supporting either the alt-left or alt-right in the United States today - and then claiming their resultant destruction was an act "of the people." Hardly.
The worst part is that Gaddafi's biggest crime had nothing to do with human rights violations. Consider the fact that one of our biggest allies is Saudi Arabia, who is now almost as a tongue in cheek joke also heading the UN Human Rights Council. All while they execute [wikipedia.org] people for things ranging from socery, to political protest, to adultery. Oh and the methods are great too. Beheading, stoning, they're even bringing back crucifixion! They like to party like its 99BCE. I imagine they all raise a glass (of grape juice... of course) to human rights following a nice crucifixion. The United States (and most other nations) could not care less about international human rights violations whatsoever except as a convenient cassus belli. Gaddafi's grievous crime was aiming to sell his country's oil in a currency other than the USD, and planning to create a gold backed currency. The petro dollar is what stabilizes the US economy. Other countries that have also stated intentions to move off the petro dollar include Iraq, Syria, and Iran. And no - it was in retribution, it was before they became targets #1 for "regime change." Saudi Arabia though, they love that petro dollar. Go figure.
For some predictive power, Venezuela also just formally announced they also plan to move off the petro dollar. Expect to see the "rebels" in that nation suddenly seem vastly more well trained, supported, armed, and organized. I wish I could live for a thousand years just to see how history will record our little empire's actions. We aren't necessarily the "bad guys", but we're certainly not the "good guys" we feign to be. Well maybe one won't have to live to a thousand to see the end of this story.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @07:33PM (1 child)
Actually the USA are the bad guys. The Russians are bad but they aren't even as bad as the USA since they aren't huge hypocrites and they don't do as much regime changing as the USA does.
And when they do it actually makes a lot more sense from their point of view. Like Ukraine - it's a buffer for them: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/russia-geography-ukraine-syria/413248/ [theatlantic.com]
Whereas the USA has often made the world a worse place even for themselves with their meddling.
On a related note, I personally find it hard to list down the good things the CIA have done for the USA much less the world.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 15 2017, @10:44PM
In my laptop, I used to use one of their WiFi cards.