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posted by martyb on Monday October 02 2017, @04:18PM   Printer-friendly

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/02/554976369/section-of-las-vegas-strip-is-closed-after-music-festival-shooting

A gunman fired upon thousands of people attending a music festival on the Las Vegas Strip Sunday night, in a brutal attack that is blamed for at least 58 deaths, police say. In the mass shooting and panic that ensued, 515 people were injured. At least one of the dead is an off-duty police officer who was attending the concert.

Editorializing: Interesting how media always emphasize ISLAMIC terrorists, but downplay domestic terrorism as psychologically disturbed individual lone-wolfs.


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2017, @10:58PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2017, @10:58PM (#576287)

    I used to lean more heavily towards gun control, but recently I've started to realize just why the founders put in the 2nd amendment. Also, no amount of gun control will stop someone hell bent on killing a large number of people.

    I liked the other AC's response "Freedom is simply more important than safety."

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Gaaark on Tuesday October 03 2017, @01:05AM (2 children)

    by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday October 03 2017, @01:05AM (#576345) Journal

    And yet, after 9/11, Americans allowed their freedoms to be taken from them because "scary ragheads".

    Now will you have to fight to get those freedoms back? Can they be brought back simply with voting? Can you actually have candidates offered to you as a real choice instead of the choice of orange turd and lying turd (who is trying to rewrite history with "Wha happen?"

    I can actually see why some people would want to old onto guns: as long as your vote REALLY means nothing, why not guns?

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2017, @02:15PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2017, @02:15PM (#576590)

      The only reason people had freedom or autonomy in the past is because the government simply didn't have the resources to monitor, categorize, and surveillance them. Thanks to the advances of the Information Age, they now have those capabilities. 9/11 helped move them along legally, but the framework had been in place decades if not centuries.

      Personally Columbine was a much bigger catalyst than 9/11, since it was what got schoolchildren to accept surveillance and a breach of their rights for so long that thanks to stockholm syndrome they would be in support of their captors in the 18ish years since.

      And now we have panopticon rolling through with all those kids bowing down to authority, because hey, they have nothing to hide, and they've been under the microscope their whole lives, right? Additionally, it wasn't social media that lead to the current lack of privacy, that was just an enabler after they decided to 'rebel' after those grade school/high school years without rights, where now they can show whatever they are up to with impunity (even though it has consequences, just like it did then.)

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday October 03 2017, @06:29PM

        by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday October 03 2017, @06:29PM (#576718) Journal

        Yeah, it's crazy what people will accept when they aren't paying attention to what 'evil' is doing.

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