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posted by martyb on Monday October 02 2017, @04:18PM   Printer-friendly

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/02/554976369/section-of-las-vegas-strip-is-closed-after-music-festival-shooting

A gunman fired upon thousands of people attending a music festival on the Las Vegas Strip Sunday night, in a brutal attack that is blamed for at least 58 deaths, police say. In the mass shooting and panic that ensued, 515 people were injured. At least one of the dead is an off-duty police officer who was attending the concert.

Editorializing: Interesting how media always emphasize ISLAMIC terrorists, but downplay domestic terrorism as psychologically disturbed individual lone-wolfs.


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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 02 2017, @06:59PM (3 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 02 2017, @06:59PM (#576083) Journal

    Please, define that "very different" bit. A genuine nutjob might be encouraged by any of dozens of terrorist organizations. To them, he is a useful idiot. Lacking any support, the nutjob may go off on his own. But, the nut is a nut, either way.

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  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Monday October 02 2017, @08:32PM (2 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Monday October 02 2017, @08:32PM (#576166)

    If you are tracking and infiltrating problematic orgarnizations, like we expect intelligence services to be doing, they can throw off watch lists to local law enforcement, you can run sting operations to take them out before they go operational on their own, etc. Some random nut goes off his meds one day and decides to take a few people to Hell with him there is not so much one can do to prevent it.

    The problem is our civilization model depends on openness to function. We can't make every possible target a fortress with security checks, armed guards and such. And all the guards in the world can't solve the root problem. We have destroyed the social cohesion, sense of respect for order, etc. that make that open society possible. We aren't One Nation anymore, we are a bunch of quarreling tribes occasionally breaking into open shooting.

    I am old enough to remember when you could walk past the local high school and during hunting season see a quarter or more of the vehicles parked being pickup trucks with gun racks, shotguns and rifles in place. Nobody thought this was in the slightest unusual, dangerous or remarkable, many of the trucks probably weren't even locked. It wasn't a problem. Dr. Sowell frequently speaks of his childhood, when he could carry a long gun home from school on the New York City subway system and nobody thought it was noteworthy. It wasn't a problem. Now any of these things would cause a blind panic, the very important question not being raised is; what changed? It should be obvious that the older societies were more stable, more peaceful, more functional compared to $current_year.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 02 2017, @08:40PM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 02 2017, @08:40PM (#576174) Journal

      You remember when . . . .

      I was just drafted into filling a gallon can with gasoline for one my less-bright children. Coming home, I was trapped behind a schoolbus. Strange - when we rode school buses, the driver came to a stop, opened the door, and between 1 and 20 kids would fly out the door, and run in as many different directions. Things have changed. Now, the driver stops, puts that barrier thing across the road, and WAITS until Mama or Papa walks across the road, to the door. When the driver recognizes the parent, or guardian, THEN he opens the door.

      This most certainly is NOT the society that I grew up in.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2017, @11:16PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2017, @11:16PM (#576298)

        Can't let kids run into the street! Can't let them walk a block or they'll get kidnapped! Can't can't can't... can't... ugh, I don't wanna live with these terrified sheeple.