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posted by martyb on Monday October 02 2017, @04:18PM   Printer-friendly

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/02/554976369/section-of-las-vegas-strip-is-closed-after-music-festival-shooting

A gunman fired upon thousands of people attending a music festival on the Las Vegas Strip Sunday night, in a brutal attack that is blamed for at least 58 deaths, police say. In the mass shooting and panic that ensued, 515 people were injured. At least one of the dead is an off-duty police officer who was attending the concert.

Editorializing: Interesting how media always emphasize ISLAMIC terrorists, but downplay domestic terrorism as psychologically disturbed individual lone-wolfs.


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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday October 02 2017, @07:03PM (8 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday October 02 2017, @07:03PM (#576091) Homepage Journal

    Erm... that never really happened. Now .22 shells being all but unobtainable did.

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  • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Monday October 02 2017, @10:05PM (7 children)

    by meustrus (4961) on Monday October 02 2017, @10:05PM (#576248)
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    If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday October 02 2017, @10:31PM (6 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday October 02 2017, @10:31PM (#576270) Homepage Journal

      Sales going up does not quite equate to "a run on". It's still fairly hard to find .22 shells for sale though.

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Tuesday October 03 2017, @06:49AM (5 children)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday October 03 2017, @06:49AM (#576464) Journal

        TMB, you compete firearm novice, what are you talking about? .22 is a caliber, not a "shell". And the "shell" is not quite descriptive enough either, it is only the empty casing once the bullet has been fired. So did you mean .22 short rimfire? Or .22 Long rimfire? Or possibly, and the most likely, .22 Long Rifle rimfire? Could you be referring to the Winchester Magnum Rimfire in .22 caliber? Or any of the centerfire configurations in the same bore diameter? .22-250? .222 Remington? .223 Remington (also know as the NATO 5.56mm round) .224 Weatherby Magnum? .225 Winchester? I was sure there was a Roberts round in this caliber, but it escapes me at the moment. '
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        So which of these "shells", oh Mis-aiming Artillery Buzzard [google.com], are you referring to, and do you have any actual evidence to support your scurrilous assertions? Or are you once again hoist on your own petard, but, actually, a .22 is a rather small petard, so perhaps you failed to be hoisted?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2017, @07:12AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2017, @07:12AM (#576472)

          It's funny to see you expose your Achilles Heel while trying to take someone else to task over firearm terminology. Not worth a +1, Funny mod, but in a sad sort of way.

          You should try getting out of the house and finding a safe place to fire a .22 for yourself. Just ask for a "twenty two" to shoot; the folks behind the counter will know how to set you up right.

          • (Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Tuesday October 03 2017, @07:37AM

            by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday October 03 2017, @07:37AM (#576481) Journal

            So, just as ignorant as the TMB, I take it? You should be more careful. Chambering the incorrect cartridge, even though designers try to make such a thing difficult, can result in breach failure or a barrel banana peel.

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday October 03 2017, @10:49AM (2 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday October 03 2017, @10:49AM (#576519) Homepage Journal

          And here I thought you'd be able to tell that I meant all ammunition of a .22 caliber. There's been almost none to be found at any given moment for a decade now.

          Just a quick P.S. FYI: almost all .22 caliber weapons will fire any of .22 long rifle cartridges, .22 long cartridges, and .22 short cartridges at a minimum. If yours won't, it's up to you to know that.

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          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Wednesday October 04 2017, @12:22AM (1 child)

            by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday October 04 2017, @12:22AM (#576862) Journal

            and do you have any actual evidence to support your scurrilous assertions?

            Answer the question, Buzzard! What shortages, other than those created in the minds of ammosexuals by the fact that a black man was president of the United States?

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 05 2017, @02:49AM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 05 2017, @02:49AM (#577292) Journal

              Uhhhhh - the .22 shortage began BEFORE Obama was elected. I don't do a lot of shooting anymore, to be honest. My sons started talking about how hard it was to find .22 ammo. When they were younger, it wasn't uncommon for them to purchase a "brick" of ammunition. They, and their cousins, could burn through the whole brick pretty quickly. During Bush's second term, the "shortage" was being talked about. Obama's terms saw that "shortage" get worse. Almost no one would sell a whole brick of ammo. Instead, when a shipment of ammo came in to the retailer, there were a bunch of people waiting to buy up what was available. If the ammo didn't sell out immediately, word of mouth brought customers in quickly to deplete the retail store's stocks.

              I never ran out - the half dozen boxes that I hid away stayed hidden. 300 rounds, available if/when I decided to use them. That's not a lot of ammo, but it's enough for a long time if you're not just burning through it for fun.

              Personally, I seldom had money to buy ammo when I was a kid. I used a single shot, and made every shot count. I had friends who used semi-automatics, and fired more rounds on a weekend than I did in a year. Funny thing about most of them - they couldn't place their shots like me. The saying, "couldn't hit the broad side of a barn" didn't quite apply. They could fire a hundred rounds pretty damned quickly, and SOME of those rounds would hit the barn.

              From my point of view, people who are wasteful of their ammunition shouldn't be surpirsed if ammunition becomes hard to find.

              I've always had enough ammo laying around for whatever purposes I had for it.