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posted by takyon on Friday October 27 2017, @11:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the freedonia dept.

This afternoon, Catalonia declared independence. At the same time, Spain invoked article 155, to strip Catalonia from its governing powers putting it under direct rule from the federal government. A vote for independence was raised in Catalonian parliament, with part of parliament leaving before the vote on independence started. The motion declaring independence was approved with 70 in favor, 10 against, and two abstentions of the normal 135 total.

From RT: https://www.rt.com/news/407956-catalan-parliament-votes-independence/
From Aljazeera: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/catalan-parliament-begins-vote-independence-171027115908493.html
From BBC: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41780116

It will be interesting to see how things unfold. In my opinion, Madrid using violence to stop a referendum gave it the legality they later claim the referendum didn't have. The lack of dialogue paved the way into the only possible outcome, Catalonia declaring independence and Madrid denying it. Whatever happens next, I hope will be peaceful. As to how the EU reacts, I'm hoping they ask for an official referendum, and whatever the outcome, pledges that both Catalonia and Spain will be able to remain in the EU if they desire. That may release tensions a bit.


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  • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday October 28 2017, @02:58AM (3 children)

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday October 28 2017, @02:58AM (#588535) Homepage

    The convenient relationship between the Western world and Turkey, like other relationships of convenience, depends on the relationships between the United States and Iran and Russia.

  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Saturday October 28 2017, @03:12AM (2 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Saturday October 28 2017, @03:12AM (#588539)

    Well it looks like Turkey is cozying up to Russia these days.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @04:43AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @04:43AM (#588571)

      Given that the US has a large nuclear warhead stockpile (bombs, or ICBMs? I have never been clear on that.) in Turkey, it really is in America, as well as the EU's best interest to decide their feelings on Turkey, rather than keep lalalaing with their fingers in their ears as Turkey becomes further extremist.

      Then again if you look at Shinzo Abe's party's landslide victories in Japan, this may very well be what they are wanting so that there will be a new world war to help increase they military defense spending budget. It'd be nice to believe everybody in power wasn't big on warmongering, but just based on actions the past few years, whether actual military action or legislation making it easier for countries to go to war, it seems like far too many people are 'in on it'.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @07:35AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @07:35AM (#588602)

        I think that you're getting to the core of what happened in my original timeline. This timeline makes it clear that even TPP/TTIP/TISA wasn't the root cause of World War 3. When President Clinton rammed that through, that was (we had thought) the spark for the market crash and the 2018 riots, giving BRICS a plausible reason to make their move away from the US dollar.

        I expect that in a few months I will be able to see the mirror image play out in this timeline. This is truly fascinating.