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posted by takyon on Friday October 27 2017, @11:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the freedonia dept.

This afternoon, Catalonia declared independence. At the same time, Spain invoked article 155, to strip Catalonia from its governing powers putting it under direct rule from the federal government. A vote for independence was raised in Catalonian parliament, with part of parliament leaving before the vote on independence started. The motion declaring independence was approved with 70 in favor, 10 against, and two abstentions of the normal 135 total.

From RT: https://www.rt.com/news/407956-catalan-parliament-votes-independence/
From Aljazeera: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/catalan-parliament-begins-vote-independence-171027115908493.html
From BBC: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41780116

It will be interesting to see how things unfold. In my opinion, Madrid using violence to stop a referendum gave it the legality they later claim the referendum didn't have. The lack of dialogue paved the way into the only possible outcome, Catalonia declaring independence and Madrid denying it. Whatever happens next, I hope will be peaceful. As to how the EU reacts, I'm hoping they ask for an official referendum, and whatever the outcome, pledges that both Catalonia and Spain will be able to remain in the EU if they desire. That may release tensions a bit.


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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday October 28 2017, @03:45AM (2 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday October 28 2017, @03:45AM (#588550) Journal

    I don't have a dog in the fight. It doesn't matter to me personally what happens to Catalonia or Spain. The only feeling I have on anything there is faint antipathy for a country that couldn't rouse itself to caste off its dictator for 30 years. Very poor show.

    I did enjoy seeing the joy on the faces of the Catalonians at the news, though. So rare now to see that, it's golden. So I'll take it as the good news for the day.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @04:10AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @04:10AM (#588560)

    USA loved the bases. They still do, including the Moron one (no kidding). Go figure what would had happened if revolt took place instead of leaving him die. Probably something nasty like in a good number of America countries.

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @01:17PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @01:17PM (#588664)

    I understand you have lived through a dictatorship and successfully fought and won a revolution. Otherwise, I fail to see how you would be in a position to understand what it is, much less pass judgement.

    Spain fought a bloody, vicious civil war to try and avoid having the dictatorship imposed. The republic lasted 3 years before the National army prevailed over the Republican (legitimate) government and army. After, severe repression ensued. People were summarily executed, jailed and tortured. Everybody had already lost family, friends, neighbours. More than that, everybody had already fought family, friends, neighbours. It was a civil war, after all. After the war people would snitch on their neighbours, who would be abducted by actual government goons. Any kind of public demonstration or protest would be violently quashed by a heavily militarized police. Some of the most oppressed (nationalistic) regions resorted to terrorism later on (and the proceeded to keep doing it once democracy was restored, but that's another story). And remember, this is not the USA. People don't have a right to possess firearms. The only weapons such a rebellion could have used would be sticks, pitchforks, wrenches and the like. Against a full on army that had already won a war against another equipped army.

    Still some people fought. You don't know much about them because most were swiftly dealt with.