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Manafort and Gates, were charged with "conspiracy against the United States," "conspiracy to launder money" and other offenses. The two were expected in court in Washington by the afternoon.
The Justice Department indictment on Manafort and Gates contains 12 counts: "conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts."
Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI.
The Manafort and Gates indictment unsealed on Monday morning does not make any reference to Russia's influence campaign against the presidential election, but it does allege extensive financial ties between Manafort and Gates and powerful Ukrainians.
The Papadopoulos materials, on the other hand, detail the many contacts investigators say he had with Russian-linked operatives. He met at least two people, a man and a woman, who the FBI says were working for the Russian government and had boasted to him about the help it could offer the Trump campaign against Clinton.
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2017, @08:09PM (25 children)
Arghhh [bbc.co.uk] Ruskies [cnn.com] No matter how much Clinton denies it, as secretary of state she sold 25% of US uranium to a Russian company while accepting
bribes"charitable donations" through her "foundation".(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2017, @08:14PM (12 children)
Stop deflecting, it is #sad.
Eat that crow bitch.
(Score: 2, Funny) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Monday October 30 2017, @08:24PM
Filter error: Subject too funny
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2017, @08:34PM (8 children)
Don't forget the criminal investigation into the Podesta group for FARA violations, discovered because they were involved in pro-Russian Ukrainian lobbying with Manafort.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2017, @08:51PM (7 children)
Is that some sort of partisan sniping? Cause all those criminal fucks can rot in prison, I don't give a shit if they have a D or R in front of their name.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2017, @09:05PM (6 children)
They were *BOTH* in collusion with the Russians, as the fact that Podesta and Manafort were involved in the same foreign antics as was disclosed by the FARA violations.
I've been saying this since before Trump was elected: We need continuing investigations into *BOTH* of them, because it is just as likely the Russians used economic influence to flip both candidates as it is they just compromised one of them.
Many of the assumptions made around US politics assumed a Pre-Globalized world, where few traitors would get a chance to escape somewhere else to live their lives as royalty. Today, with the domestic and foreign push for globalization, it is easy enough to work yourself into a position of influence and throw whole corporations or societies under the bus for a foreign government's payout. This whole Trump/Clinton election cycle has just proven American politics needs to both harshly penalize its political representatives both in the government and outside it for illegal and criminal conduct whether domestically or as a proxy for a foreign power. Furthermore we need to take some hard look at assumptions regarding the 'natural born' status of certain elected officials and whether that actually helps or hinders security of the nation, since some immigrants may be *MORE* nationalistic/patriotic than the spoiled brats who had lived in america and couldn't even pass the citizenship tests foreigners are required to pass to become citizens. I know from personal experience with a friend who became a citizen that *I* couldn't remember half ot the shit they were required to memorize and recite as part of their testing to become an american citizen. I imagine 99 percent of naturally born americans couldn't either, and I have no doubt both Clinton and Trump fall within that percentage.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Monday October 30 2017, @09:27PM (5 children)
We need continuing investigations into *BOTH* of them,
Sure, you can have your 10th an 11th Clinton investigations right after the first Trump investigation is over.
(Score: 0, Troll) by hemocyanin on Monday October 30 2017, @11:33PM (4 children)
The fact that the Clintons are adept at remaining above the law should not be a bar to further investigations.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday October 31 2017, @12:03AM (3 children)
The difficulty in taking down the Clintons lies in taking down all the people they're in bed with, which is literally a who's who of the global elite. That is why they were so sure they had the Whitehouse in the bag last fall.
So never fear, we will still get our President Hillary Clinton because the global elites will it and they will bring Trump down or whatever else they have to do to bring it about. (That is, of course, unless someone or something brings all of them down first.) Look at how desperately they want it, so desperate that they're burning down everything to get it. In the end, whoever wins will find the victory quite Pyrrhic.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @08:54AM
When you say "global elites" you mean.... who exactly? Is it the illimnati? Or shady billionaires with Russian connections? Or just one billionaire... let me guess, Soros? Names, give us names.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DutchUncle on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:01PM (1 child)
Have you considered that maybe, just maybe, the difficulty in taking down the Clintons is that they were SMART enough to get CLOSE to the line of illegality WITHOUT going over it? and that the multiple investigations have all been legitimate when they all come to the conclusion that their actions were shady and look bad but were not actionable? (that is, not definitive enough that a prosecutor thought a trial would get a conviction)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by linkdude64 on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:13PM
To be innocent in her email investigation:
-Clinton could not recall a specific process for nominating a target for a drone strike.
-Clinton did not recall using a flip phone during her time as SoS
-She could not recall how any data stored on her Blackberry was destroyed
-She could not recall why the State was unable to provide her with a secure Blackberry
-She did not recall receiving any emails that she thought should not be on an unclassified system
-She could not recall her specific conversations regarding the creation of the clintonemail.com domain
-She could not recall receiving guidance regarding email policies outlined in the Foreign Affairs Manual
-She could not recall any specific routine for deleting email from her account while SoS
-Did not recall receiving an email about securing personal email accounts sent to all employees
-Did not recall emails sent to her regarding requests that were made to upgrade the email server
-Did not recall contacting Pagaliano for tech support
-Did not recall who had access to her Blackberry and email accounts
-Did not recall a specific FOIA request made
-Did not recall who recommended she change her email address after it was publicly disclosed
She HAS crossed the line, she just pleas the fifth for everything, and because again, the courts are fucking stacked in favor of the Ds they don't take her plea as indication of guilt or incompetence.
(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:02PM (1 child)
"Collusion is okay when women and democrats do it."
Not to mention that HC's top aide Abedin was literally on the Saudi Arabian government's payroll while she was on the campaign with HC.
The doublethink is just astounding. Sure, your candidate lost, but she was far more corrupt, from far more harmful regimes than Trump is alleged to be with Russia, even in the most wild of claims.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:57PM
So, if HRC was under investigation how would you respond to claims about Trump being a scam artist and corrupt as hell? I bet you'd say "stop with that strawman ya fucking idjit."
I think you should change your name to Linkdude8
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2017, @08:16PM
Pay No Attention To Trump
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Monday October 30 2017, @08:42PM (4 children)
Personally, I'd like to see both Trump and Hillary, and all their top aides and campaign workers, thrown in prison. The whole thing reeks of pot & kettle.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Monday October 30 2017, @08:59PM (2 children)
Very yes. It appears every last one of them is guilty of some form of corruption or another, and seeing as they already like spending so much time together (outside of when they need supporters to think they hate each other) I think it would be fair to put them all in the same prison.
I will be highly suspect if Trump doesn't get pulled into all of this if they are going so far as to look at tax evasion. I can't imagine anyone on the Hill being totally clean in that arena.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2017, @09:23PM (1 child)
They need to be tried and if found guilty, publicly humiliated before being lined up in front of a firing squad, given only .22LR rounds, and shot, before being allowed to cry out in pain and agony.
These people are worse than military deserters (especially if the deserters were drafted), and the sort of scum America needs to make an example out of if we ever want to prove we stand for 'Truth, Justice, and the American Way' (Which hint hint, doesn't involve wholesale divestment of US interests to China and Russia, while neither country gives reciprocal rights/benefits back.)
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2017, @10:22PM
The beauty of the internet is also it's ugliest face, anyone is allowed to post!
(Score: 2) by ilsa on Tuesday October 31 2017, @04:51PM
Don't blame me! I voted for Kang!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2017, @08:48PM (2 children)
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Many agencies reviewed the sale of the ore company, and in general the ore cannot leave the USA anyhow. As far as charitable donations and speech fees as "bribes", politicians have been involved in such for many decades, including Reagan. Why focus on just Hillary? If you want to outright ban it, that's fine, but ban it for all politicians. But since the right-leaning SCOTUS ruled political bribery as "free speech", that's more difficult.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2017, @09:03PM
But but EMAILS!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:31AM
But three do!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 30 2017, @09:14PM (1 child)
Congress has had the majorities to investigate HRC. for quite some time now. Yet they've done nothing.
They're investigating the D.t. though. go figure...
(Score: 5, Informative) by NotSanguine on Monday October 30 2017, @11:13PM
I know, right? It is amazing how Congress has done absolutely fucking nothing about that murderous bitch! For years! [politifact.com]
A sad state of affairs my friend.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 5, Informative) by Nobuddy on Tuesday October 31 2017, @05:10PM
Lies make the Baby Jesus cry.
What was sold is 20% stake in a US uranium production company. It is illegal to sell US uranium outside the US. Or rather, it is done only by license, and that license has never been given to anyone. They were sold a 20% stake in the profits from a uranium company- and sold that stake BY the uranium company. Clinton was head of one of 9 agencies that had to sign off on the deal. She did not sell anything. The State Dept approved a requested sale along with the other 8 agencies.
Turn off the right wing propaganda and do some research of your own.