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posted by takyon on Monday November 06 2017, @02:25AM   Printer-friendly
At Least 26 Dead After Gunman Opens Fire In South Texas Church

Federal authorities are responding to a shooting at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, a small community southeast of San Antonio.

In a press conference Sunday night, an official from the Texas Department of Public Safety described the scene: Around 11:20 am, the suspect, dressed in black, approached the church and began firing an assault rifle. He then entered the church and continued firing.

Gov. Greg Abbott confirmed that at least 26 people were killed. A Texas Department of Public Safety official said the ages of the victims ranged from 5 to 72 years old. The AP reports that the pastor's 14-year-old daughter is among the dead.

The Department of Public Safety confirmed to NPR that at least 20 others were wounded. A DPS official said in the press conference that the gunman was confronted by an armed civilian outside of the church.

The shooter, who was found dead in neighboring Guadalupe County, has been identified as Devin Kelley, 26, a former Air Force member.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:05PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:05PM (#593070)

    Hard to say in this case because until last year it was illegal to carry in a church at all in Texas. Now it's only restricted if a 30.06/30.07 sign is posted, and I would argue still unknown and/or highly discouraged. There is a reason curches, schools, military bases and government buildings are targeted often as they are all soft targets. If it was commonplace to carry in a church I would argue that they wouldn't be targeted nearly as often.

  • (Score: 2) by jimshatt on Tuesday November 07 2017, @12:15PM (2 children)

    by jimshatt (978) on Tuesday November 07 2017, @12:15PM (#593613) Journal
    Or you could argue that, if it were commonplace to carry in a church, you'd have to trust *all* churchgoers not to start shooting. And since churchgoers already suffer from delusional psychosis, churches full of gunslingers would be even more reason to avoid such places.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 07 2017, @10:41PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 07 2017, @10:41PM (#593858)

      Your ignorant bias is showing... Everyone has to feel, live and believe exactly as you do. Is that it?

      Also, most of the people I've met who are so anti-gun have never been around one, fired one, or learned about it. I've taught at least three how to shoot. None of them switched completely (or admitted to me at least) in their opinion, but they all did soften their rhetoric quite a bit.

      • (Score: 2) by jimshatt on Wednesday November 08 2017, @07:59AM

        by jimshatt (978) on Wednesday November 08 2017, @07:59AM (#593984) Journal
        I've fired several guns, and it was awesome. I'm sure I would want to own a gun if I were living in the US because it's just neat! And... that's part of the problem. Wanting to own a deadly weapon because it's so cool isn't a good reason to allow it. Not because I can't handle it, but because it's a statistical certainty that some people can't. A few nutters like this guy is enough for me to be okay with not owning a gun if that means he can't either.

        Of course, you're free to believe whatever you like. Living however you like is already constrained by law and in my opinion 'not being allowed to own a gun' should be one of the constraints. Except maybe in a few cases, like hunting and sports (with extensive background checks and licenses and mandatory membership of a shooting range and so on). But that's just my opinion.