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From the NY Daily News (and covered almost everywhere):
A Kansas man shot to death by police earlier this week was the victim of a misdirected online prank known as "swatting," according to social media chatter.
The victim, identified as Andrew Finch, was gunned down on Thursday night after cops responded to his Wichita home amid a false report that he had shot his father to death and was holding his mother, brother and sister hostage.
A responding officer fatally shot Finch, 28, when he came to the front door, Wichita deputy police chief Troy Livingston said during a press conference. Livingston declined to comment on what triggered the officer to open fire and would not say whether Finch was armed.
Police briefing (10m8s). Body camera footage (53s).
I'm speechless.
takyon: The swatting was quickly linked to a dispute between two Call of Duty players:
On Twitter, more than a dozen people who identified themselves as being in the gaming community told The Eagle that a feud between two Call of Duty players sparked one to initiate a "swatting" call. After news began to spread about what happened Thursday night, the people in the gaming community, through Twitter posts, pointed at two gamers.
"I DIDNT GET ANYONE KILLED BECAUSE I DIDNT DISCHARGE A WEAPON AND BEING A SWAT MEMBER ISNT MY PROFESSION," said one gamer, who others said made the swatting call. His account was suspended overnight.
According to posts on Twitter, two gamers were arguing when one threatened to target the other with a swatting call. The person who was the target of the swatting gave the other gamer a false address, which sent police to a nearby home instead of his own, according to Twitter posts. The person who was to be the target of the swatting sent a Tweet saying, "Someone tried to swat me and got an innocent man killed." [...] Dexerto, a online news service focused on gaming and the Call of Duty game, reported the argument began over a $1 or $2 wager over the game.
Update: 911 Call from suspect (4m58s).
Brian Krebs conversed with the apparent suspect over Twitter.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Arik on Saturday December 30 2017, @07:43PM (5 children)
I doubt that very much. One reason I doubt that is that such facts are clearly irrelevant when they go the other way - and they *do* go the other way, several studies have clearly documented that women are more often the aggressors than men, looking at domestic violence specifically. Yet men are still presumed to be the aggressors in such incidents, by police, by shelter workers, etc. When a female seeks shelter from abuse, she'll find lots of resources - shelter, counseling, legal assistance. Male victims of domestic violence? They're referred to therapy that presumes they were the abuser.
I wasn't able to easily find a good number for today, but there were 1500 battered women shelters in the US all the way back in 1990, there are certainly many more today.
How many shelters are there for men in this country? As best I can determine, the total is 2, and the first one only opened 2 years ago.
So no, facts don't seem to drive these policies, only to be used to support them, when they happen to work for that.
"See, Kyuubey, this is why you Y-chromosome-havers need feminism: the "patriarchy" (and I really prefer "kyriarchy" here for the reason I'm about to explain) harms men. A lot."
Yes it does, and that should be your first clue there is no 'patriarchy.' 'Kyriarchy' is a cool word but it still doesn't really exist. Western civilization generally and anglophone ones specifically are gynocentric societies. We're so gynocentric, that we can assert with a straight face that we live in a misogynistic patriarchy that oppresses women as a class even though women as a class are not just equal, but formally superior, to men in our legal system. We are so deeply, reflexively gynocentric that we can almost instantly depose extremely powerful men accused of abusing women, by sheer force of universal disapproval and disdain - then resume the talk about 'rape culture' with no sense of irony, or awareness.
"Who does the most violence against our boys and men? Other boys, and other men. "
Well there's your male gaze at work, seeing the part you want to see.
Yes, men do violence as each other, in the process of competing with each other.
And what are they competing for? The approval of the female.
Is it only the man who is being violent when the woman conceives the violence, plans the violence, manipulates him to perform the violence, but it's his hands that do the work? Perhaps it's technically true but don't let that blind you to the actual power dynamic at work.
"I guarandamntee you no woman came up with the idea of circumcision, to use the example than so many meninists get their manties in a bunch over."
An interesting point to choose. I suspect you're right that it wasn't invented by a woman, but female preference plays a significant role in preserving it. But this isn't a thread about circumcision.
"Kyuubey, unless you are rich and powerful, *you have more in common with the most fringe woman than you with the elite men.* And I mean fringe, like "checks all the SJW boxes" fringe. "
Now that was just rude.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday December 30 2017, @07:56PM (4 children)
My God. What kind of solipsistic, delusional hellscape is the inside of your head if you can type that with a straight face?
Gynocentric? Western society is gynocentric? Seriously?! We haven't even had the right to fucking VOTE for 100 years! Marital rape was not outlawed until 1993! Gynocentric?!
You're only proving my point when you mention that men harm other men in competition and often in competition for women. Yes, and? Men harming other men. Why not cooperate a bit? Why not approach women as human beings, rather than some prize to be won or some resource to be fought over and hoarded and stolen and traded? Jesus Christ, I sincerely hope you're not dating or married.
Competing for womens' attention does not make our society gynocentric. It makes cross-gender relationships fucked up. And half of that is due to the above regarding how men view women. I swear to Cthulhu, not a day goes by but that I read something and thank my lucky stars I'm a lesbian...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Arik on Saturday December 30 2017, @09:15PM (3 children)
Interestingly enough, one of the reasons that female suffrage lagged a few years in the US was that polling showed women in this country were generally against it at first. There were many women who had little or no interest in voting, and *feared losing privileges.* This would be, logically, the consequence, right? Fully equality? So that means you're signing up for the draft... well no. Of course what wound up happening, on this issue and virtually always since, is that women's rights expand wherever the old ways limited them, but they rarely if ever contract in the areas of traditional privilege.
So women have had the vote for nearly 100 years, and yet in that time not one single female has been drafted, for instance.
"I swear to Cthulhu, not a day goes by but that I read something and thank my lucky stars I'm a lesbian.."
Another of those inconvenient statistics is that lesbians are no less likely to batter their partners than men are. So be careful, and don't break your arm while you're patting yourself on the back.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday December 31 2017, @03:03AM (2 children)
Lesbians have the highest *reported* rate of domestic violence. Reported does not necessarily equal actual. And I've had an abusive lover, but guess what? She's bi, not gay, and has had more men than women. I'm with a perfect gold-star girl now and we get along wonderfully. Don't break your neck shoving your head up your arse. Or do.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Touché) by kurenai.tsubasa on Sunday December 31 2017, @06:44PM (1 child)
No, lesbians are demonstrably more violent. This is how collective and several works, Azuma. It doesn't matter one bit what you do. You are not an individual, and it doesn't matter if you're just as well behaved as a gay man. We can conclude based on the data available that, because you are a lesbian, you are therefore violent.
It would be unfair to other lesbians, after all, if we were to conclude differently.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday December 31 2017, @10:51PM
Preeeeetty sure I'm an individual. That voice in my head is me, my own thoughts. If you are hearing voices that are not yours, you are either a telepath or a demoniac.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...