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posted by takyon on Tuesday June 12 2018, @12:12AM   Printer-friendly
from the launch-coded dept.

President Trump meets Kim Jong Un

President Trump and North Korea's Kim Jong Un will meet in just a few hours. Here's what to watch for and when, according to the White House schedule.

  • 8 p.m. ET (June 11) / 8 a.m. Singapore (June 12): President Trump departs Shangri-La Hotel en route to Capella Singapore, where the two leaders will meet.
  • 8:20 p.m. ET (June 11) / 8:20 a.m. Singapore (June 12): Trump arrives at Capella Singapore.
  • 9 p.m. ET (June 11) / 9 a.m. Singapore (June 12): President Trump and Kim Jong Un greet each other. This is the big moment. Cameras will be there to capture their expected handshake.
  • 9:15 p.m. ET (June 11) / 9:15 a.m. Singapore (June 12): President Trump and Kim Jong Un participate in a one-on-one bilateral meeting.
  • 10 p.m. ET (June 11) / 10 a.m. Singapore (June 12): President Trump and Kim Jong Un participate in an expanded bilateral meeting.
  • 11:30 p.m. ET (June 11) / 11:30 a.m. Singapore (June 12): President Trump and Kim Jong Un have a working lunch.
  • 4 a.m. ET (June 12) / 4 p.m. Singapore: President Trump is expected to speak with reporters.
  • 6:30 a.m. ET / 6:30 p.m. Singapore: President Trump departs Capella Singapore for Paya Lebar Air Base Singapore.
  • 7 a.m. ET / 7 p.m. Singapore: Trump departs Paya Lebar Air Base, Singapore, en route to Andersen Air Force Base, Guam. From there, he will travel on to the United States.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by c0lo on Tuesday June 12 2018, @12:59AM (5 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 12 2018, @12:59AM (#691705) Journal

    I personally think that the NK nuclear program literally collapsed in on itself, and there might sill be some fallout from that locally. With the ...[various considerations]

    Missing from your considerations: China's influence. NK does not play now any game that Chairman Xi doesn't support.
    And Chairman Xi can't afford to let China's influence in the game now that Kim has such a promising hand. Of course, plausible deniability will be present.

    In other news (which may have been obscured by the Trump/Kim noise recently): China/Russia nuclear $3B cooperation + $1B industrial investment fund [scmp.com]

    The two countries also signed a raft of deals, including for nuclear cooperation projects totalling 20 billion yuan (US$3.13 billion) and a US$1 billion industrial investment fund.

    Chinese President Xi Jinping met his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin ahead of next week’s US-North Korea summit and after the United States withdrew from the Iranian nuclear deal.
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    Putin said that Russia would work with China on the North Korean nuclear issue, ahead of the highly anticipated meeting on Tuesday between US President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in Singapore.
    ...
    Xi and Putin also vowed to make “all possible efforts” to preserve the 2015 international accord on Iran’s nuclear programme that Trump abandoned last month.

    Translation for the last quoted phrase: if US impose economic sanction on anyone dealing with Iran, China and Russia may very well decide to just ignore them.
    With Trump recently annoying US allies with trade tariff wars [bbc.com], it may end of US picturing itself in a corner in regards with international influence.

    Interesting times, indeed.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 12 2018, @01:10AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 12 2018, @01:10AM (#691713)

    Id guess whats goin on is pretty straightforward :

    “I explained to the President of China that a trade deal with the U.S. will be far better for them if they solve the North Korean problem!” Mr. Trump declared in a morning Twitter post. Minutes later, he warned: “North Korea is looking for trouble. If China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them! U.S.A.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/world/asia/trump-china-trade-north-korea.html [nytimes.com]

    Not sure why people feel the need to come up with elaborate scenarios.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by c0lo on Tuesday June 12 2018, @01:52AM (3 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 12 2018, @01:52AM (#691738) Journal

      Not sure why people feel the need to come up with elaborate scenarios.

      In spite of simpleton minds, the way the world works is not that simple.
      Someone said it better before: "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong."

      “North Korea is looking for trouble. If China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them! U.S.A.”

      I suppose he may try to apply simple solutions.
      Maybe he personally will learn something, maybe he won't; in any case, for good or bad, he'll drag the entire US into it.

      (China is in the position to make the USA credit rating worthless [scmp.com] - yes, it will lose most of $3T USD-debt by dumping it on the market, that's about 1/7 or 1/5 of total US national debt. I suspect China may be willing to do so if US threatens economic sanctions of comparable values, especially if the other economies are involved on a tariff war with USA).

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 12 2018, @05:11AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 12 2018, @05:11AM (#691786)

        No one is disregarding china, read the Trump quote again. They are central to this whole event.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday June 12 2018, @03:08PM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday June 12 2018, @03:08PM (#691936) Journal

        China could dump US debt, and it is a tactic that that has been enshrined in their national defense policy. But they would only do that as a prelude to actual war. Doing it in any other fashion would certainly backfire. The US has the civil society to buffer the effects. China doesn't. The US would sink into economic chaos, but the Chinese Communist Party would be literally torn apart by a billion angry Chinese peasants.

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        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday June 12 2018, @03:29PM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 12 2018, @03:29PM (#691950) Journal

          The US has the civil society to buffer the effects. China doesn't.

          The more the time passes, the more I think that the United in USA is a misnomer. But then, what do I know? Maybe you like the liberty to work as a driver for Uber and pay more taxes than the 0.1%-ers.

          but the Chinese Communist Party would be literally torn apart by a billion angry Chinese peasants.

          You mean those Chinese peasants that never lived any better along the history? Me thinks you delude yourself - it will be the population of the cities that will try to torn the party, but I'm not that convinced they'll do so [soylentnews.org]

          According to Badiucao, Tank Man represents “something lost in China’s young generation now — the idealism, passion, sense of responsibility, and confidence that an individual can make a change”, he said.

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