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posted by takyon on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the september-surprise dept.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the demure firebrand who in her 80s became a legal, cultural and feminist icon, died Friday. The Supreme Court announced her death, saying the cause was complications from metastatic cancer of the pancreas.

The court, in a statement, said Ginsburg died at her home in Washington surrounded by family. She was 87.

"Our nation has lost a justice of historic stature," Chief Justice John Roberts said. "We at the Supreme Court have lost a cherished colleague. Today we mourn but with confidence that future generations will remember Ruth Bader Ginsburg as we knew her, a tired and resolute champion of justice."

Architect of the legal fight for women's rights in the 1970s, Ginsburg subsequently served 27 years on the nation's highest court, becoming its most prominent member. Her death will inevitably set in motion what promises to be a nasty and tumultuous political battle over who will succeed her, and it thrusts the Supreme Court vacancy into the spotlight of the presidential campaign.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by legont on Sunday September 20 2020, @12:12PM (8 children)

    by legont (4179) on Sunday September 20 2020, @12:12PM (#1053897)

    Yes, I agree with you. I was a liberal for most of my life. The reason I hate American liberals is simple - they betrayed me. It is personal.
    Having said that, the only hopeful place you mentioned - Western Europe - is going down the same drain fast. The tide turned I believe for a long long time.
    Therefore one has to keep guns and lots of ammo at hand, unfortunately.

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    "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Grishnakh on Sunday September 20 2020, @05:26PM (7 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Sunday September 20 2020, @05:26PM (#1053996)

    How did American liberals "betray" you?

    I think the other thing people seem to forget is that liberals (in the American sense, not the "classical" sense) are, by definition, people who are unhappy with the status quo and want to change things for the better (in their view of "better" of course). Conservatives, OTOH, are by definition people who want to keep things mostly the same, go back to some halcyon "golden age", etc. So for the conservatives, the goals are generally better defined, because they agree more with each other on what their goals are. With (American) liberals, not so much: they have many different goals, some of them even conflicting. That's why you have stuff like some liberals who are interested in environmental issues, some interested in social-justice issues, some want everyone to become vegan and not swat flies, some just want police to stop shooting black people in the back, some want open borders, some want a better social safety net, some just want to emulate Denmark, some want more freedom of religion, some think all religion is bad and want restrictions on it, some want to preserve freedom of speech (a classically-liberal position), others want restrictions on it, etc.

    • (Score: 2) by legont on Wednesday September 23 2020, @12:20AM (6 children)

      by legont (4179) on Wednesday September 23 2020, @12:20AM (#1055186)

      How did American liberals "betray" you?

      There are many, but one I have to mention.
      Women who went to work did not get any new money. Whatever was paid to them was simply taken from men's pay.
      Family income did not increase. It became necessary for both to work and every dollar a wife made was taken from her husband's pay.
      Women in our liberal paradise simply work for free.

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      "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
      • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday September 23 2020, @02:32AM (5 children)

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday September 23 2020, @02:32AM (#1055204)

        So you think preventing women from working and forcing them to be second-class citizens is somehow preferable? Try asking some women in your life what they think about that attitude.

        • (Score: 2) by legont on Wednesday September 23 2020, @12:31PM (4 children)

          by legont (4179) on Wednesday September 23 2020, @12:31PM (#1055433)

          Don't twist my words.
          What liberals have done was simple. They brainwashed women to go working and then deducted their pay from their husbands. The total income increase for the family was zero, while the work doubled and it came mostly on women. And don't think women don't get it. They sure do. At least "flyover" women. And they hate liberals with all their hearts. They drive with "Clinton to prison" bumper stickers.
          BTW, it was the biggest hit on productivity as well and so regressed the country. Any underpaid labor slows the progress, but free labor just stops it dead.

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          "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
          • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday September 24 2020, @11:58PM (3 children)

            by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday September 24 2020, @11:58PM (#1056440)

            I haven't twisted your words at all, you're simply incapable of looking at things from a woman's perspective. Why would a woman want to be a second-class citizen, unable to have a normal career like a man, and be forced to marry someone just to have a decent life unless she's lucky enough to be born into wealth? Do you not realize what life was like for women before the 1950s or so?

            "Flyover" women don't hate liberals because of work, they hate them for various other reasons. Modern far-right conservatives (and I know a few) have other issues they're angry about; what you describe is absolutely NOT one of them. Things they worry about are guns, religious issues, abortion, government social programs ("socialism"), etc. Women's equality is actually something they're perfectly happy with, and these "liberal hating" women (again, I know several) are generally very independent and despise the idea of being forced to be dependent on a man. If anything, these women are much more like libertarians than whatever antiquated notion of conservatives you seem to have.

            • (Score: 2) by legont on Friday September 25 2020, @12:59PM (2 children)

              by legont (4179) on Friday September 25 2020, @12:59PM (#1056677)

              Women, like most people, do not like working for free. They also do like to stay home with children when they have children.
              American attitude to women is just plan ridiculous. Two weeks off and then go back to the mill with the baby crying at home. Russia, for example, has two years off.
              The only American women who are happy are liberal DINKs - double income no kids.

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              "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
              • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday September 25 2020, @03:21PM (1 child)

                by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday September 25 2020, @03:21PM (#1056767)

                Wow, you're insane. You're somehow trying to make the case that the lousy maternity leave standard in America somehow makes American women want to become slaves to men again? No, progressive American women just want to adopt policies like those in Western Europe, which are generous like Russia's. The problem is that conservative women keep voting against this, and their other best economic interests, by voting for a party that opposes all these things, or anything that's profitable for businesses.

                • (Score: 1, Troll) by legont on Friday September 25 2020, @11:09PM

                  by legont (4179) on Friday September 25 2020, @11:09PM (#1056982)

                  You twist my words again.
                  American women want freedom to either work or be mothers, but when they do work they want to be paid *in addition* to what their husbands paid. They *do not* want their salary to be deducted form their husband's paycheck.
                  And make no mistake - they know that it was liberals who screwed them out of money and time. That's why they hate Clinton and this dead judge witch. They know it was on purpose just so the rich liberals make more money exploiting them.

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                  "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.