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posted by takyon on Friday October 02 2020, @05:25AM   Printer-friendly
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[20201002_054327 UTC: Added c|net link and quote.--martyb]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1311892190680014849

Tonight, @FLOTUS and I tested positive for COVID-19. We will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. We will get through this TOGETHER!

A report from c|net adds:

White House physician Dr. Sean Conley said in a memorandum late Thursday that the president and first lady were "both well at this time, and they plan to remain at home within the White House during their convalescence."

The announcement of the president and first lady's positive coronavirus test results came just hours after the revelation that top White House aide Hope Hicks had tested positive for the virus as well. The president indicated in an earlier tweet that he and the first lady had begun the quarantine process.

Hope Hicks, who has been working so hard without even taking a small break, has just tested positive for Covid 19. Terrible! The First Lady and I are waiting for our test results. In the meantime, we will begin our quarantine process!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 2, 2020

President Donald Trump tweets he and first lady Melania Trump test positive for Covid-19

Trump tests positive for COVID-19 after his adviser and confidant Hope Hicks tested positive for the coronavirus

c0lo adds: Dow futures plunge more than 500 points after Trump says he tested positive for coronavirus


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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday October 06 2020, @06:08PM (6 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 06 2020, @06:08PM (#1061337) Journal

    I don't know what you think I am going to vote for that will harm people. I believe in trying to be like Jesus, who incidentally, had nothing but compassion for unbelievers. His only unkind words were for the religious leaders of his day. He lets them have it in Matt 23.

    I get it. You don't believe in God. Or you want me to believe in a different god. It is unclear which. You've read something that you think would make me not believe. I can't make you believe in Jesus any more than you can make me not believe. I'm sorry you seem so upset about that.

    I don't always act rationally. (some would point to the fact that I program in Java) Most people don't always act rationally, including yourself. You seem to have a very strong emotional reaction to the simple fact of my belief.

    The reason an argument is pointless is because it isn't going anywhere. I doubt you will believe. And you won't make me not believe. So what point is there? You say I don't believe in reality. You warn I'm in for an unpleasant surprise after death, which implies you believe in an afterlife, which many would say is not reality.

    I am not now, nor have I ever been upset that we disagree about this. I expect I will see you on SN and there will be topics we agree or disagree about. You are not the only person that I have some differences of opinion with here.

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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday October 07 2020, @04:49AM (5 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday October 07 2020, @04:49AM (#1061520) Journal

    You are willfully missing the point here: your religion (as well as Judaism and Islam) is harmful to humanity and both internally inconsistent and incompatible with observable reality. All axioms are destruct-tested by the theorems they give rise to, and all hypotheses falsified by contradictory observations. Your refusal to see that there *is* a contradiction (a tremendous number actually) does not make them disappear any more than, to borrow from CS Lewis, a lunatic can blow out the sun by writing "darkness" on his padded cell wall.

    Yahweh is not God, because he does not meet the definition of what it is to *be* God, and no matter how many times this is explained to you, you plug your ears and pretend no one actually said anything, A being that is not God, but claims to be God, is a blasphemer. As Yahweh is presumably a spirit of some sort, and the word we usually use for evil spirit is "demon," it therefore follows that the Abrahamic religions are demon worship...which, you must admit, would explain one king hell mountain of a lot about their history *and* their present actions, as well as those of their partisans!

    Also? Stop this "well well welly well well, *someone's* emotional!" bullshit. OF FUCKING COURSE I'd be "emotional" over someone who would for one moment even consider that a being who acts the way we are told Yahweh does in the Torah, Bible, and Quran was anything *but* some sort of evil demon.

    Bluntly, it makes me suspect all your vaunted morals and ethics and humanity are a thin, hypocritical veneer over complete moral insanity, and that you're insulting my intelligence and that of every other person you run into. The most charitable explanation I've got is that you really, truly do not understand either your religion or humanistic morals, and are just bumbling along doing whatever feels good to you and clumsily justifying it with shallow, half-assed, ill-researched, completely un-Biblical appeals to Scripture.

    That is fucking horrifying. YOU are fucking horrifying.

    Why? Because among other things, it means there is no real basis to your morality. Of necessity, you must subscribe to divine command theory (don't bullshit me about "natural law morality," your God *made* natural law). Under DCT, there *are* no good or evil acts; there is only obeying God and disobeying God, which are 100% good and 100% evil respectively. All acts and decisions are shorn of all context and all connection with reality. Under DCT, if [you believe that...!] your God is telling you to go out and slaughter unbelievers, you go out there and slaughter some unbelievers, lest your God charbroil you alive for all eternity, world without end, amen.

    Then there's the complete childish refusal to see the bleeding obvious flaws and paradoxes in your fundamental, bedrock beliefs. Listen closely: if the story of Adam and Eve is not literally true, if human souls to not ALL owe their ancestry to Adam and Eve, *the entire edifice of Christianity comes tumbling down.* Even the Catholics, who *say* they accept evolution, carved out a "special creation" exception for A&E because they understand this: no literal Adam and Eve, no Fall, no Original Sin, no need for this sadomasochistic snuff porn charade where your God tortures and kills his son, who is also kinda-sorta himself, to sacrifice him TO himself to stop himself from enforcing his own rules, which he arbitrarily created, but ONLY for people who tell his-son-who's-also-sorta-him telepathically that they'll worship him and accept his sacrifice...you know, that bad weekend he had?

    All opinions are not equal. Ignorance does not trump knowledge. I know this is painful to hear, but it will accelerate your spiritual growth. You do not need to be an atheist (I'm not!), but you DO need to, as the book itself says, put away childish things.

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    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday October 07 2020, @01:56PM (3 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 07 2020, @01:56PM (#1061604) Journal

      Like I said, I get it. My believe in a God who loved us enough to give his only son to save us, is deeply offensive to you. You reinforce that you hate God, or the God I believe in. Being Christian means I am obviously ignorant and a horrible person with no morals. I am clearly childish because I don't instantly drop my most deeply held beliefs at your say so. Like I said, I get it.

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      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday October 07 2020, @11:53PM (2 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday October 07 2020, @11:53PM (#1061913) Journal

        That's...that's just a temper tantrum. You're doing exactly the same thing a toddler in the high chair does when his mother tries to feed him carrot puree for the first time, complete with whining and squirming and shitting his britches.

        Quit your pathetic childish whining and LEARN SOMETHING. Your spiritual growth will not suffer; if anything it will accelerate massively. Your current state of mind is idolatry.

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        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday October 08 2020, @02:05PM (1 child)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 08 2020, @02:05PM (#1062080) Journal

          Body language doesn't come across. I was not angry or upset. I was completely calm writing that message, as I am when writing this message.

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          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday October 09 2020, @01:55AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday October 09 2020, @01:55AM (#1062325) Journal

            Yeah, you went all the way out the other side into "shut it all down!" I could hear the hatches battening from here.

            Danny, the key to breaking you out of this crap is that *you are a better and more moral being than your God is.* Stop and ask yourself why this is so.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 08 2020, @04:12AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 08 2020, @04:12AM (#1061991)

      Oh My Gosh, preach it girl!! Have you written any books yet? You have such a gift of prophecy.

      I recently attended a memorial held at a mostly Black church, for a very dear long-time family friend, and your direct truth dovetails with the various pastors and teachers who spoke truth fervently.

      There's a ton of "toxic faith" and diluted Christianity out there. Certainly the work and influence of the enemy, but people open themselves and others to it trying to win brownie points rather than souls.

      That's all the preachin' I got in me tonight.