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posted by martyb on Monday December 28 2020, @07:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the Hang-in-there dept.

Many sources are reporting that Trump finally signed the pandemic relief bill:

Not gonna summarize all the bits in it - it's some 5k pages of legalese gobbledygook, but I understand it continues augmented unemployment benefits, eviction suspension, funding to prevent government shutdown, and another direct cash payment.

I'm sure it also has a bunch of "porky pork", but the people are suffering, time is of essence, and it should have been done months ago.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @07:25PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @07:25PM (#1092146)

    > The CASE Act could mean Internet users facing $30,000 penalties for sharing a meme or making a video. It has no place in must pass legislation.

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/12/we-have-one-day-tell-congress-not-bankrupt-internet-users [eff.org]

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @07:37PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @07:37PM (#1092149)

    The CASE Act has no place in any law. It's unconstitutional because Congress does not have the authority to create courts outside of Article III of the Constitution.

    https://www.rstreet.org/2019/07/16/potential-pitfalls-of-the-case-act/ [rstreet.org]

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:40PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:40PM (#1092180)

      Constitutionality has NOTHING to do with current US government actions, EITHER side of the aisle.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @07:04AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @07:04AM (#1092381)

        Watch SCOTUS rule that it's legal with the liberal justices dissenting and Trump's justices in the majority, and then our constitutional scholars and liberty tree waterers will be nowhere in sight.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:03AM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:03AM (#1092394)

        time for a great reset back to just the constitution, toss the rest of the added garbage

        • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:42PM (2 children)

          by isostatic (365) on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:42PM (#1092436) Journal

          Is murder explicitly illegal in the constitution?

          • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @04:31PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @04:31PM (#1092504)

            This is a common misunderstanding of what the constitution is. The constitution does not lay out restrictions on what you, a citizen, can (or cannot) do. Its entire purpose is to restrict the power of the government. This is the whole point behind the notion of inalienable rights. For instance you inherently, as human able to communicate, already have the right of free speech. The constitution does not and cannot grant you that, anymore than it can grant you the right to breathe. But what it can do is to prevent the government from trying to restrict that right. The problem we've seen over the past centuries is the government increasingly "interpreting" the constitution in a way that can be succinctly stated as, 'there is no such thing as unconstitutional act.'

            We are now imprisoning people who refuse to give government officials the passwords to their computer devices even though the 5th amendment was designed specifically to prevent this sort of behavior. We have massive unwarranted surveillance and collection of information, sent with an expectation of privacy, in spite of the fact that this is exactly the sort of behaviors that the 4th amendment was designed to prevent. And much, much, much more.

            The issue at hand here is that a constitution is a pointless piece of paper. It has no meaning unless people *make* it have a meaning. You cannot rely on the government to enforce the constitution when it is specifically the government that is breaking it. This is specifically what Jefferson was referencing with his "tree of liberty" reference:

            And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.

            As a society trends towards weakness and pacification, it's simply inevitable that authoritarianism will gradually take hold for authoritarian is the greatest of desires for those that seek power, and with a pacified population there is nothing left to restrain it.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @09:49PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @09:49PM (#1092639)

              Whoosh

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30 2020, @05:16AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30 2020, @05:16AM (#1092767)

          time for a great reset back to just the constitution, toss the rest of the added garbage

          Yeah! Especially the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments!

          Every since we passed those, the niggers just get more and more uppity. Amirite!?!

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:39PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:39PM (#1092179)
    What will happen is only an unlucky minority and "enemies of the state" will get hit with those penalties.